They're definitely in a tough situation. Actually, Suh probably deserves 15-18 million more than Stafford and CJ deserve the money they're getting. Stafford was #21 in passer rating, and CJ was 16th in receiving yards due in part to injuries. He's starting to get banged up. The Lions are paying CJ almost twice what the Packers are paying Jordy Nelson. That's an example of why some teams have salary cap problems and some don't.Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig
But that's also a product of draft position and early career success. If Jordy was drafted by the Packers at number 5 overall and started his season like CJ, the Packers would either be paying him a lot or already have let him go.
No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
Maybe that's why TT doesn't use 1st round picks on WR's. Why put yourself into a position of having to pay huge money to a WR when you have a great QB who can make good WR's great? And average WR's good?
Sure, and where they typically draft, you're not going to get a shot at that physical specimen, 'sure-fire' dominant WR. Even when Raji was drafted #9; Packers could have had Crabtree, Macklin, Harvin (Nicks and Britt were available after Clay was drafted)
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They did it with bubblegum and bundle twine this past year. Those 3 players accounted for North of $52M in cap space this past year, no one else on the team had a cap number over $5M. Yes, they had a good run and made the playoffs, but that is nowhere near sustainable.
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They seem to treat their football team like a baseball team. Baseball teams would spend a ton of money, win a title, then disbanded the team as they would hemorrage money. Problem is, the cap is a lot more unforgiving in the NFL than baseball. Plus the Lions didn't do squat with the team they had which is a double whammy. Football owners and GMs need to be smarter with their money than their MLB counterparts and I think some NFL guys get too wrapped up with how the baseball guys do things at times with big contracts.
Another reason to love Ted.
All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
If Calvin Johnson had played his entire career with Favre/Rodgers, he'd be on pace to destroy Rice's records. It's not always about just the one player, but the supporting cast. Calvin Johnson got that boatload payday because had great production AND was the most physically talented receiver, if not player, in the league when he inked the deal.
How would signing Suh overcome dunderdummy's - "rush 3 (no one really), and cover no one defense" like he ran against Seattle on 3rd and forever??
Signing another stud player isn't going to stop Capers from being Capers - is it??
He's had the tools to succeed the last 2 years, and he's shit the bed time and time again... you guys can make some excuses for the embarrassing crap he's handed us years previous, at least to some defensible degree, but the bottom line is - dunderdummy cannot be trusted - EVER!!
I said that when they hired him, and it'll be true until the day the league declares him an embarrassment to the game and bans him for life!!!
I'd love to have Suh as a player - just as I love Peppers as a player, and I like a lot of the other players we have on defense... but undercutting it all is dunderdummy.
There's simply no accounting for the time when he decides to stick 2 carrots up his nose and go complete idiot on us... it can happen at any moment, and unfortunately it tends to happen at big moments in big games.
I would hope you guys would eventually get this figured out, lol... but alas, all these years later - you guys still love the guy. Complete headscratcher to me
wist
Would you care to point out the recent threads where anybody on this forum has been praising Capers? I haven't seen it.I would hope you guys would eventually get this figured out, lol... but alas, all these years later - you guys still love the guy. Complete headscratcher to me
I read this and felt compelled to comment. I may not have praised Capers in this forum, but I certainly have in others. The main reason the Packers D did as good as it did/didn't do worse than it did (take your pick) is the scheming and trickery of Capers. Personnel-wise, we are deficient. Think back to the blandness of Packer D before Capers. What we have now is distinctly better.
Com'on Joe... you love the guy, admit it!!!
wist
I'm pretty meh about him. I think it's possible to win with him (they have before). But I sure wouldn't mind a change. With the exception of ILB, I think the talent is pretty good. The defense has had a frustrating inability to close out games after playing well for most of the game.
Well the Cover 0 rush didn't get the QB when Russell threw the game winning TD, so it seems as though you can get burned with either approach if the players don't do what they are supposed to do.
Or the offense doesn't get a first down until its behind.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
The last 3 times Seattle possessed the ball they scored touchdowns. It's hard to come to Capers' defense (no pun intended) when that happens.
The defensive alignment Vs Seattle with 1st and 10 at our 35 that went for the game winning pass and catch for the Seahawks win was simply stupid 'D'.
For CB Tramon Williams to give the inside route to Seattle WR Jermaine Kearse and with no over the top backup ie from Sean Richardson was simply hard to believe.
It was a gift wrapped route for Wilson > Kearse.
Dom Capers should have been FIRED just for that.
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That Cover 0 blitz had been hugely effective in the second half of the season. It helped win the Cowboys game. Players need to execute.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Giving the down and the importance of the situation (the Super Bowl was at stake). I feel that more prudence in terms of protecting the middle against the pass was needed.
Yes ...... in all plays execution is important.
Yes ...... CB Tramon Williams screwed up allowing Seattle WR Jermaine Kearse the inside route. The sideline was TWill's friend.
He had to align himself 4-5 feet to his right. Force the route outside. As it turned out he was simply beaten by an easier throw for Russell Wilson than if Wilson had to toss it down along the sideline.
Some help over the top was also needed. The Packers gift wrapped that win for Seattle right there. Dom Capers should have been FIRED! He's too old to get it right.
Forever we put up with weakness and ST's.
Forever we witnessed MM's flaws in overall game management.
Forever we have to witness Dom Capers screw up !!!!!!
Mike McCarthy acts too slowly !
His boss is slower.
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** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
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never trust Capers. NEVER
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