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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    Agreed, I looked at the RB number and it didn't bother me so much. I know it's sexy to call the position devalued, but it's still a position that can touch the ball 2 dozen or more times a game. The top guys deserve top money...

    Doh, I just realized you didn't specify which way you thought it was stupid. It's the third lowest, above only safety and TE (didn't count kicker!). I think it's slotted way wrong, compared to the importance to a team.
    I was referencing the devaluation of the position. The franchise number is (if I remember) the average of the top 5 at the position. Besides AP and Maybe Lynch, what RBs are valued at over $10 MM per year? I'm not sure any should be over $6-7 MM right now.

    There almost seems to be fewer dependable RBs than there are dependable QBs, although I figure that's actually impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    I was referencing the devaluation of the position. The franchise number is (if I remember) the average of the top 5 at the position. Besides AP and Maybe Lynch, what RBs are valued at over $10 MM per year? I'm not sure any should be over $6-7 MM right now.

    There almost seems to be fewer dependable RBs than there are dependable QBs, although I figure that's actually impossible.
    I do think it's ridiculous that it's the third lowest #. There are other backs that carry the load and are more than dependable, they are game changing: from this past season, Murray, McCoy and Bell were all outstanding. Bell is going nowhere but up, and could become the best back in the league now. Forte went over 1K on the ground...and added 800 yards in the air - he's the only one that kept that team from a top 5 draft choice, cause it certainly wasn't Cutler! Morris, Foster and Gore (despite the later two being a little long in the tooth) all also did well on bad teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    The Packer skew my perception probably since Ted could draft either position from a hospital bed.

    My sense is top WR don't dominate games so much as their teams' offenses. While a top CB can remove a threat all together. Fitz and CJ earned huge contracts while playing for some middling teams. Vincent Jackson's contract was dumb and Mike Wallace wasn't far behind.

    However, just as you can find bargain basement, mid to late round WRs and do well, I suppose you can play zone CBs and be effective without shelling out top dollar.

    I am probably complaining about just a handful of players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    If you had a big time Tight End you'd be in business. Otherwise it's just ridiculous all around. 26 million for Detroit to franchise Suh? Where's he gonna end up? Seattle? That'd be brutal. They should dump Beastmode and sign Suh. Although he could be one screw-up away from being out of the league for a year. He also could be the missing link to one of the best defenses since the '85 Bears. I sure hope Wilson costs 'em a ton of money and soon because the Pack needs them to lose some talent not get more.

    Packers need them to sign Beastmode for big money and then he needs to go down with a chronic back. I don't know where Suh's gonna end up but that could be big. Anywhere but Seatlle.
    Jason Lacanfora tweeted that NFL sources are saying a deal with Lynch is being finalized for 2 years/$21 mil. $12 next year and $9 the year after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Jason Lacanfora tweeted that NFL sources are saying a deal with Lynch is being finalized for 2 years/$21 mil. $12 next year and $9 the year after.
    Ya, and shortly after that dweeb made the 'announcement' Lynch's agent came out and denied it.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ynch-deal-yet/
    After Hendrickson said there isn’t, La Canfora has backpedaled faster than Darrell Green, claiming that he continues to hear that the Seahawks have an offer on the table that “will result in a deal.”
    Lacanfora can have some decent insights, but he's an idea/analysis guy. Looking to him for factual information...not so much. Based on his track record, he's got about as many NFL sources as you and I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    Ya, and shortly after that dweeb made the 'announcement' Lynch's agent came out and denied it.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ynch-deal-yet/


    Lacanfora can have some decent insights, but he's an idea/analysis guy. Looking to him for factual information...not so much. Based on his track record, he's got about as many NFL sources as you and I.
    Obviously there's no deal signed yet, and Lynch's agent still has some dealpoints he's trying to negotiate for his client, but Lacanfora stuck to his story. Not sure what PFT is talking about him backpedaling. You don't work for the biggest football media outlet as an "insider" without having some actual sources throughout the league. I understand that these guys get used by both team and player reps so they often get told what teams and agents want to see reported, but someone inside in Seattle is telling him something, and whoever it is thinks the broad strokes of a deal are in place.

    I'm all for Lynch getting big money. The bigger the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Obviously there's no deal signed yet, and Lynch's agent still has some dealpoints he's trying to negotiate for his client, but Lacanfora stuck to his story. Not sure what PFT is talking about him backpedaling. You don't work for the biggest football media outlet as an "insider" without having some actual sources throughout the league. I understand that these guys get used by both team and player reps so they often get told what teams and agents want to see reported, but someone inside in Seattle is telling him something, and whoever it is thinks the broad strokes of a deal are in place.

    I'm all for Lynch getting big money. The bigger the better.
    How this plays out is going to be something else. He is, after all, under contract for next season ($5M base +$2M LTBE incentives), but it seems to be a given that he will get a new contract. I wonder if the Seahawks are considering playing hardball with him at all? The NFLPA really dropped the ball during the last set of negotiations, the fines for missing camp are pretty prohibitive and would force Lynch's hand quickly.
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    Jason was telling the team side of the story, Florio is telling the agent's side. The team wanted the fans to know they are offering big money to a popular player. La Canfora just put it much too strongly.
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