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    Compensatory Picks Issued Today

    Packers should pick up 2 6ths (James Jones and EDS) and a 7th (Newhouse). Only 32 picks issued max so the loss of C.J. Wilson is expected to be uncompensated.

    http://overthecap.com/projecting-the...icks-for-2015/

    Finally Newhouse hopefully provides some value. He's on the bubble of being 7th round compensation-worthy.

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    Breno Giacomini - 5th round comp. Dude got 4.5 mil. Amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Packers should pick up 2 6ths (James Jones and EDS) and a 7th (Newhouse). Only 32 picks issued max so the loss of C.J. Wilson is expected to be uncompensated.

    http://overthecap.com/projecting-the...icks-for-2015/

    Finally Newhouse hopefully provides some value. He's on the bubble of being 7th round compensation-worthy.
    I don't really quite get the formula, but somehow it seems to me that James Jones should be worth more than a sixth rounder.

    On the other hand, the Packers should have to give up a draft pick for laying Marshall Newhouse on another team.


    And no compensatory picks for the Detroit Lions, which means this is what they have for the 2015 draft: six draft picks total - one in the first round, one in the second, one in the third, none in the fourth or fifth, one in the sixth and two in the seventh.

    Damn. Martin Mayhew doesn't give himself many bites at that apple, does he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    On the other hand, the Packers should have to give up a draft pick for laying Marshmallow Outhouse on another team.
    you stole my line
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    And no compensatory picks for the Detroit Lions, which means this is what they have for the 2015 draft: six draft picks total - one in the first round, one in the second, one in the third, none in the fourth or fifth, one in the sixth and two in the seventh.
    ferchristsake, if they were to lose one of their top defensive........erummm.....never mind
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    Cincinatti with a two-fer - 3rd round pick and Micheal Johnson back on team! Don' t know that I've seen that before
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    We did not get either of the 7ths we were vying for. Ah well...

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    Okay, I stand corrected. Hasselbeck the Elder, Marquez Colston, Leroy Hill, and that Tom Brady guy were comp picks. Still, I just don't get my hopes up that there's more than one notable comp player per class.
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    We're in the 20th or 21st year of compensatory picks. Honestly, I'm never as excited about them as the rest of the board is. All the suspense of a mediocre-level draft pick with none of the mercantile benefits.
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    Josh Sitton, Mike Daniels and Richard Rodgers among GB comp selections. Hard to get too excited about two sixth round picks though given the overall depth of the roster.

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    All the 6th rounders and the 7th rounder will mysteriously end up on IR for 2015 anyways.

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    James Jones played with a rookie QB and did not put up great numbers. Still a 6th round seems low.
    The Packers drafted a great Center which was better than EDS and they get a 6th round pick. Great deal.
    I'm not disappointed enough to voice any complaint.
    Often there are not enough free agents to warrant a compensatory pick and a few of the high drafting teams get an 8th round pick. Not this year.
    One of the 2 picks will be worthwhile.
    Expect about the same next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaCheez View Post
    James Jones played with a rookie QB and did not put up great numbers. Still a 6th round seems low.
    The Packers drafted a great Center which was better than EDS and they get a 6th round pick. Great deal.
    I'm not disappointed enough to voice any complaint.
    Often there are not enough free agents to warrant a compensatory pick and a few of the high drafting teams get an 8th round pick. Not this year.
    One of the 2 picks will be worthwhile.
    Expect about the same next year.
    The biggest determining factor is the size of the contract they signed. That's why Jones was only worth a 6th round pick. Packers probably will get 4th round picks next year for House and TWill.

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    thats just wrong that a team can get a 3rd round pick for a guy that they re-signed before the comp picks are even announced

    somethings wrong with the formula

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    Nothing wrong with it, except that the Bucs are fucking idiots. Teams like Chicago and Tampa always doing stupid things in free agency is what helps keep powerhouses like Seattle, Green Bay, New England, and Baltimore in their position. It's a double-edged sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    Nothing wrong with it, except that the Bucs are fucking idiots. Teams like Chicago and Tampa always doing stupid things in free agency is what helps keep powerhouses like Seattle, Green Bay, New England, and Baltimore in their position. It's a double-edged sword.

    Well, that's why it matters who runs your organization. The NFL tries to get perfect parity by such things as rewarding shitty teams with the first picks in each round of the draft - give them an advantage so they can get better. In theory, that was in part what free agency was going to do - to give shitty teams a leg up by letting better teams develop good players who could be then legally poached.

    As it turns out, though, if your organization is run badly, you're going to screw up the advantages you're given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    Nothing wrong with it, except that the Bucs are fucking idiots. Teams like Chicago and Tampa always doing stupid things in free agency is what helps keep powerhouses like Seattle, Green Bay, New England, and Baltimore in their position. It's a double-edged sword.
    yeah but its a compensation pick for losing a player. they have not lost the player. the lost him for a year, like an injury.

    that IMO, should have brought the comp pick way down or cancelled it out all together

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    yeah but its a compensation pick for losing a player. they have not lost the player. the lost him for a year, like an injury.

    that IMO, should have brought the comp pick way down or cancelled it out all together
    What if they signed a different, but similar player this year? Should they still lose the compensation pick for the FA loss last year? I doubt anyone would even raise the question. Why should it matter who the player is that they sign this year?

    To put it in Packer terms, the Packers lost Erik Walden in 2013 and received a compensatory pick in the 2014 draft. They also signed Peppers in 2014 as a street free agent. Should they have lost their compensation for Walden in the 2014 draft because they signed Peppers? Now, what if the Colts had released Walden after 2013, and instead of signing Peppers, the Packers re-signed Walden in 2014. Should they have lost the 2014 compensatory pick if they had signed Walden instead of Peppers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    What if they signed a different, but similar player this year? Should they still lose the compensation pick for the FA loss last year? I doubt anyone would even raise the question. Why should it matter who the player is that they sign this year?

    To put it in Packer terms, the Packers lost Erik Walden in 2013 and received a compensatory pick in the 2014 draft. They also signed Peppers in 2014 as a street free agent. Should they have lost their compensation for Walden in the 2014 draft because they signed Peppers? Now, what if the Colts had released Walden after 2013, and instead of signing Peppers, the Packers re-signed Walden in 2014. Should they have lost the 2014 compensatory pick if they had signed Walden instead of Peppers?
    yes, IMO, they should have lost the pick if they had re signed walden before the next draft

    its compensation for a team to help rebuild after losing a guy, if the guy returns to the team before the team uses the comp pick, then they haven't lost anything have they?

    so, whats stopping a team and player from getting together and deciding it might be in the players best interest to take a massive one year deal elsewhere. the team will get a high comp pick for him, and the team will resign the player the following year and let him chase a ring?

    i don't know, to me this is common sense, if you haven't lost anything, you shouldn't get compensation. guess i'm in the minority on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    its compensation for a team to help rebuild after losing a guy, if the guy returns to the team before the team uses the comp pick, then they haven't lost anything have they?
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