Lyerla arrested

[Guiness]

This didn't tak long - Lyerla arrested in Oregon for 'being under the influence of intoxicants'. He was driving.

Pretty big nail in his NFL career coffin. It was mentioned around there that getting an injury settlement and letting him run with a pocket full of money around instead of being on IR and part of the Packers organization would be bad for him, and things went bad quickly. I don't see how he comes back to the Packers, and would be somewhat surprised to see him back in the NFL at all.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ted-in-oregon/

[Freak Out]

Ugh. Had high hopes for him turning it around.

[Patler]

Makes you wonder how closely he toed the line while in GB.

[Joemailman]

I had the sense that when the Packers released him with an injury settlement instead of putting him on IR that it was because they had observed things about him they didn't like. Didn't want him around. I'd say it's over for him.

[Patler]

I had the sense that when the Packers released him with an injury settlement instead of putting him on IR that it was because they had observed things about him they didn't like. Didn't want him around. I'd say it's over for him.

Ya, I sort of got the "wash our hands of him" impression, too.

[Harlan Huckleby]

This didn't tak long - Lyerla arrested in Oregon for 'being under the influence of intoxicants'. He was driving.

Old devil rum again.

I think there is every reason to hope that the guy goes through some sort of rehab and comes out of it.

edit: I just looked up what his troubled past is about. Cocaine? BFD. He can't be in NFL now, but he should be back.

[pbmax]

Its too bad. I hope he pulls out of it.

[Joemailman]

Its too bad. I hope he pulls out of it.

The problem is, I'm not sure what kind of a support group he has. I believe his parents are a major source of the problems he's had.

[MadScientist]

Old devil rum again.

I think there is every reason to hope that the guy goes through some sort of rehab and comes out of it.

edit: I just looked up what his troubled past is about. Cocaine? BFD. He can't be in NFL now, but he should be back.

Apparently not devil rum -

Lyerla was reportedly suspected of being “high on either illegal drugs or prescription medication”

Well some $150K will now go to lawyers as well has what he wasted on blow. It will kill his NFL chances, even in a league that give Ray Rice a slap on the wrist, and is planning on reinstating Josh Brent.

Technically the NFL hasn't banned him, but teams are not likely to give him a chance. Perhaps if he had proved himself, he'd be facing an actual suspension with a chance to play again. Million dollar body, 5-cent head.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Apparently not devil rum -

in a league that give Ray Rice a slap on the wrist, and is planning on reinstating Josh Brent.

Justice is unjust in the NFL. Josh Gordon got a year-long suspension for inhaling pot via secondhand smoke. WTF?

[Zool]

Well Rice was cut and suspended indefinitely now.

[MadScientist]

Well Rice was cut and suspended indefinitely now.

Yep. He's done. He gets to keep the huge amount (25M) of the contract already paid, but at least won't get paid for this year. At least that balances things a little bit.

[Guiness]

Yep. He's done. He gets to keep the huge amount (25M) of the contract already paid, but at least won't get paid for this year. At least that balances things a little bit.

Does he or does he not get paid for this year? As a vested vet, his contract is guaranteed for the season if he's on the roster week 1, right? Does suspended count as being on the roster?

Also be interesting to see how the contract is written, and if they can claw back some of the signing bonus for 'conduct detrimental to the team'.

[MadScientist]

Does he or does he not get paid for this year? As a vested vet, his contract is guaranteed for the season if he's on the roster week 1, right? Does suspended count as being on the roster?

Also be interesting to see how the contract is written, and if they can claw back some of the signing bonus for 'conduct detrimental to the team'.

According to PFT, suspended = not on roster, so nothing for this year. Don't know about any clauses, but I suspect there isn't anything. If Hernandez didn't have anything, I doubt Rice did.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Technically the NFL hasn't banned him, but teams are not likely to give him a chance. Perhaps if he had proved himself, he'd be facing an actual suspension with a chance to play again. Million dollar body, 5-cent head.

Why would the NFL not give him a chance? That's crazy talk.

Do you really think that cocaine use is that different from alchoholism, or Bret Favre's vikes?

BTW, I hate cocaine. The Grateful Dead were merrily taking their pot and acid and mesc, the love was free and flowing, and then cocaine got popular. Coke is an insidious, mean-ass drug that ruins personalities and lives. It's worse than meth in that it is socially acceptable. Coke destroyed so many people in the 70s and 80s before people knew what it was about. Nice white people, too.

[Kiwon]

There's a lot wrong in the Ray Rice saga.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-ri...g-punch-video/

One hotel worker says the NFL saw the video and the NFL says it didn't. Does that mean that the Ravens didn't see it as well?

Did the NFL really need to see the video to understand what happened? Dragging a limp body out of the elevator wasn't enough?

Also, the incident happened seven months ago. Did TMZ pay someone to leak it?

Further, if the victim didn't press legal charges and even marries her attacker one month later, then can the NFL truly justify the anticipated lifetime ban on Ray Rice? Com'on, let's face it, Ray Lewis was intimately involved in a murder and Michael Vick tortured and killed dogs in grisly ways. Both were welcome to play again. Yes, I know hypocrisy reigns in the NFL where revenue is the bottom line, but still, instant outrage after seven months is tough to take.

[Joemailman]

There's a lot wrong in the Ray Rice saga.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-ri...g-punch-video/

One hotel worker says the NFL saw the video and the NFL says it didn't. Does that mean that the Ravens didn't see it as well?

Did the NFL really need to see the video to understand what happened? Dragging a limp body out of the elevator wasn't enough?

Also, the incident happened seven months ago. Did TMZ pay someone to leak it?

Further, if the victim didn't press legal charges and even marries her attacker one month later, then can the NFL truly justify the anticipated lifetime ban on Ray Rice? Com'on, let's face it, Ray Lewis was intimately involved in a murder and Michael Vick tortured and killed dogs in grisly ways. Both were welcome to play again. Yes, I know hypocrisy reigns in the NFL where revenue is the bottom line, but still, instant outrage after seven months is tough to take.

Victims of domestic abuse sometimes stay in abusive relationships, so the fact that they got married later might not be very significant. Is anyone talking about a lifetime ban? The policy recently announced by the NFL calls for 6 games for a first time offense.

[MadScientist]

Why would the NFL not give him a chance? That's crazy talk.

Do you really think that cocaine use is that different from alchoholism, or Bret Favre's vikes?

BTW, I hate cocaine. The Grateful Dead were merrily taking their pot and acid and mesc, the love was free and flowing, and then cocaine got popular. Coke is an insidious, mean-ass drug that ruins personalities and lives. It's worse than meth in that it is socially acceptable. Coke destroyed so many people in the 70s and 80s before people knew what it was about. Nice white people, too.

He doesn't have any history that shows he can succeed at the NFL level, and the reports from the Packers camp weren't all that great - rusty, raw, several drops, talk of moving to FB. Add to that a second arrest for substance abuse, even after a treatment program, and you have a guy who isn't going to be worth bothering with. Maybe if he is clean for a couple of years, and keeps in football shape somehow (arena or CFL?), but until that happens, he is going to stay out of the NFL.

[KYPack]

There's a lot wrong in the Ray Rice saga.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-ri...g-punch-video/

One hotel worker says the NFL saw the video and the NFL says it didn't. Does that mean that the Ravens didn't see it as well?

Did the NFL really need to see the video to understand what happened? Dragging a limp body out of the elevator wasn't enough?

Also, the incident happened seven months ago. Did TMZ pay someone to leak it?

Further, if the victim didn't press legal charges and even marries her attacker one month later, then can the NFL truly justify the anticipated lifetime ban on Ray Rice? Com'on, let's face it, Ray Lewis was intimately involved in a murder and Michael Vick tortured and killed dogs in grisly ways. Both were welcome to play again. Yes, I know hypocrisy reigns in the NFL where revenue is the bottom line, but still, instant outrage after seven months is tough to take.

There's a story kicking around about this. The other video's of course existed. Someone (NFL, Ravens, both?) had the hotel mgt threaten the shit out of the security staff that if the incriminating videos got out, they would lose their jobs. Well, the casino that this happened at went out of business. None of 'em had any jobs to worry about and sold 'em or whatever to TMZ for money and/or spite. The casino went belly up the 1st part of Sept so the video's were on ice until then.

So the NFL and the Ravens look like a whole load of assholes and Rice get's the boot and lifetime suspension.

Dunno if it's true or not, but it explains a lot of shit.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://lombardiave.com/2013/06/26/mo...f-all-packers/

I almost forgot about Mossy Cade and his aunt