Originally Posted by 3irty1
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
If all you watch is Packers football, he probably seems like the second coming of Rod Woodson... on the other hand, I don't think he can carry Darby's jock. Are you saying Randall was/is as good as Darby??
Randall is a soft player. He is the type of player the Packers prefer... for some reason, given the choice between two players - a tough, hardnosed tackler, and a finesse guy, the Packers will take the finesse guy every time.
The national media have been questioning the Packers toughness for years - and for good reason.
wist
I saw Darby play a couple of times for the Bills. He's pretty physical, but I thought he was a bit of a liability in man coverage. He seemed to get turned and get lost sometimes. Seems like a good player. Should improve.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
And you buy the national media?If all you watch is Packers football...they may look soft, but a lot of teams play as soft or softer than than the Packers D. The Packers aren't playing in a vacuum. the 49ers, Seahawks, and Broncos all had enormous success the past few years with very good defenses. Compared to those teams , the Packers defense looks soft. It really does. But that's a one-sided view. The Packers are designed to beat people mostly with their offense. They can win with a capable defense, and that's probably what they will have, so long as Stubby is the coach.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
How the heck can I possibly compare Darby and Randall? I see Randall play every week. When do I get to see Darby play, and how often? I suppose I could make something up based on a few highlight plays, but after all, those are highlights and may not be representative of his overall work.
Randall showed himself to be a willing tackler last year, more willing than some CBs the Packers have had in the past. Maybe his technique wasn't always the best, but that is what coaching is for. I don't know how anyone could watch the Packers last year and not see Randall as a very willing tackler at CB.
Randall hasn't been there "for years", so any media questioning of the "Packers toughness for years" is not an indictment of Randall. It means nothing.
I hate that Yooper has a busier day job now.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Without a bump I can tell you that Justin Harrell the poster was very unsure about Derek Sherrod the player.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
"He's far too soft, he's a terrible tackler, and he's a perennial pro bowler!"
HOFer
From my perspective the negative folks write a guy off before he sets foot in camp. See above for an example. See all the consternation in yesterday's draft thread regarding Kenny Clark. The optimistic folks aren't saying a guy is a can't miss. They are saying wait and see. See my quote regarding Randall for an example.
I think he's a corner with the versatility to play safety, and later he will. Kind of like Antrell Rolle. I don't hate or like the pick, but he wasn't a reach. Bob and Kiper had him going in the early 20's. Most had him going in the top 40--Lindy's and their two month old scouting reports notwithstanding. I think if people had been thinking of him as a CB, they'd like him a lot more. To me, he's similar prospect to Eric Rowe.
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It's so funny. It takes literally years to grade a draft and people rush to judgement the day of the draft.
I'm not complaining, fans reactions is all part of the drama and adds to the entertainment value of the whole deal.
Guys I like in R2:
Braxton Miller
Kevin Dodd
Su'a Cravens
Jaylon Smith
Myles Jack
There are more but Braxton Miller and Su'a Cravens are both going to be studs IMO.
I don't think TT will take any medical chances. Not in round two, anyway.
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If we were to redraft tomorrow Darby might crack the top 5 but this wasn't about Darby and still isn't.
You're on record in this thread saying Randall was a wasted pick, not worthy of a first round selection, and even took your hyperbole so far as to say he could have been taken in the 5th round. If we were to redraft tomorrow Randall would be well within top 20. He's exceeded expectations for near every fan but for you he's been an all you can eat crow buffet. Its not polite to talk with your mouth full even when doing so with a separate orifice.
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
I don't think he was worth a 1st round pick. Didn't, and don't.
What part of that don't you understand?? I don't like soft players, never will, and would never draft one in the first round - is that clear enough for you??
wist
Yes, but no one else sees the 'softness' you describe. You may need to readjust your set.
Nitschke > Butkus > Darby > soft > Randall > ankle-biter
Just because he isn't an ankle biter doesn't mean he is not soft. Look at that scale!
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Oh no I understand perfectly, and you're certainly entitled to opine as hard as any of us humble know-nothing amateurs. Then there's you:
Doesn't quite match up with the 2015 edition of Damarious "the crow chef" Randall.
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70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
^ Anklebiter!
Lol!
More like lumber salesman.
Serious question, how many cb's today really bring the wood?
Randall has shown that he's not afraid to get in there abdominal mix it up. He's not a big guy but he's certainly not tramon playing patty cake with receivers.
Go PACK
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