Damarious Randall, 2015 First Round Pick

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^^^ Still, Wist could be right - over a career I could see Darby having a better run than Randall. Just saying it's too early to tell. Looks pretty close right now.

End of first round is less than a fifty-fifty proposition that they start for any appreciable time. Packers ahead of the curve there. He and Quentin Rollins Band are going to be around for awhile.

[mraynrand]

End of first round is less than a fifty-fifty proposition that they start for any appreciable time. Packers ahead of the curve there. He and Quentin Rollins Band are going to be around for awhile.

All true it appears. But here I'm just comparing to Darby. If you project Randall from 9 to 15 starts, he has more tackles, and twice as many interceptions. I've watched them both. Randall may be 'softer' but he covers better in man. (only two games watched for the Bills to every game for the Packers so there is a bias)

[HarveyWallbangers]

All true it appears. But here I'm just comparing to Darby. If you project Randall from 9 to 15 starts, he has more tackles, and twice as many interceptions. I've watched them both. Randall may be 'softer' but he covers better in man. (only two games watched for the Bills to every game for the Packers so there is a bias)

I wasn't talking about Darby vs. Randall. That is irrelevant to the discussion. I was poking fun at wist's brutal scouting report on Randall, and the fact that he said he wouldn't take Randall before the 5th round.

[wist43]

I wasn't talking about Darby vs. Randall. That is irrelevant to the discussion. I was poking fun at wist's brutal scouting report on Randall, and the fact that he said he wouldn't take Randall before the 5th round.

Don't think I said that... as I remember, I said there were sites that had a 5th round grade on him - one site had him as an undrafted FA. I don't like soft players, and would think that there would be a player more to my liking at just about every pick of the draft.

Look Harv, I know all you guys are homers, and you love every pick Ted makes - whether they are good or hamburger flippers is irrelevant to the fact that you all will pour accolades on to every Packer draft choice.

Philosophically, I don't agree at all with the Packer approach to defense - so naturally, I'm not going to like a lot of the players TT picks on that side of the ball simply b/c of style. They may end up being a servicable player for the style that the Packers play, but for the style of play I prefer, Ted's players simply wouldn't be a fit.

There are teams that get how to play good defense; and, there are teams that get how to play good offense - and they draft accordingly. The Packers, under TT and MM, have been all about offense, and the defense has been bad to average, with the exception of a couple of years in which TT had inherited players and actually signed a couple of key FA's, i.e. Jenkins, Woodson, and Pickett.

The rest of the time, the majority of the time TT has been here - the defense has been shit With you guys the whole time thinking you're watching something that is Lombardiesque.

Didn't know 'Lombardiesque' was a word did ya?? Well, now ya do

[mraynrand]

Philosophically, I don't agree at all with the Packer approach to defense - so naturally, I'm not going to like a lot of the players TT picks on that side of the ball simply b/c of style. They may end up being a servicable player for the style that the Packers play, but for the style of play I prefer, Ted's players simply wouldn't be a fit.

This is a reasonable thing to say

The rest of the time, the majority of the time TT has been here - the defense has been shit With you guys the whole time thinking you're watching something that is Lombardiesque.

this is a really stupid thing to say

[mraynrand]

I wasn't talking about Darby vs. Randall. That is irrelevant to the discussion. I was poking fun at wist's brutal scouting report on Randall, and the fact that he said he wouldn't take Randall before the 5th round.

I know you weren't. But Wist was. So I decided to address that. Feel free to poke fun at Wist