Damarious Randall, 2015 First Round Pick

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I think he's a corner with the versatility to play safety, and later he will. Kind of like Antrell Rolle. I don't hate or like the pick, but he wasn't a reach. Bob and Kiper had him going in the early 20's. Most had him going in the top 40--Lindy's and their two month old scouting reports notwithstanding. I think if people had been thinking of him as a CB, they'd like him a lot more. To me, he's similar prospect to Eric Rowe.

you're gonna rip on me for reading lindy's, yet you're gonna listen to mel kiper? i'd rather listen to scouting reports from my dog then listen to mel

[Carolina_Packer]

I think part of the reaction to Damarious Randall is that his name is not Stephone Anthony, which many were expecting, the way things fell. Even worse for some, he was the very next pick to the Saints. Is that fair?

[MadScientist]

I don't see this guy as a disaster like others are and making it sound like we just signed Bush to a 5yr/$50M contract. CB was a position we needed and we got one (albeit a converted S). He's got coverage skills and is willing to be physical. Sounds like a real good pick.

CB was a big need, and this guy gives them some flexibility. They can use him as the slot corner, or take MB or HaHa out and use him in the Woodson role (might be a bit much to ask in his first year). Combine with Clay moving in and out and you have a recipe for confusing the offense. Or a recipe for confusing themselves when there are 'communications breakdowns'.

I won't say I love this pick, but I certainly don't hate it.

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I think part of the reaction to Damarious Randall is that his name is not Stephone Anthony, which many were expecting, the way things fell. Even worse for some, he was the very next pick to the Saints. Is that fair?

i think part of the reaction was that he was announced as a safety when there were better safeties on the board in many peoples mind, and we didn't need a safety.

then it came out he would be a CB, even though he hasn't played there in two years, so he will not only have to make the jump to the nfl, but also relearn the position, not to mention, there were still good cb's on the board ranked highly, who already know how to play the position

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I don't see this guy as a disaster like others are and making it sound like we just signed Bush to a 5yr/$50M contract. CB was a position we needed and we got one (albeit a converted S). He's got coverage skills and is willing to be physical. Sounds like a real good pick.

its funny you mentioned bush. while watching that oregon state clip, i thought to myself "my god, we just drafted jerrett bush in the first"

[HarveyWallbangers]

you're gonna rip on me for reading lindy's, yet you're gonna listen to mel kiper? i'd rather listen to scouting reports from my dog then listen to mel

No. I don't listen to Mel. I'm just saying there are people (like Bob McGinn and Mel Kiper, among others) that had the dude going higher than our pick. Most had him top 40. I think the pick was a surprise to many (including myself) because the dude had "Safety" next to his name. It makes more sense thinking of the Randall as a corner.

BTW, as bad as Kiper is, he's better than Lindy's. Lindy's claim to fame is being the first one to get their magazine on the market. Makes their stuff outdated junk, but many of us were starving for any kind of info in the offseasons back in the day, so we'd buy Lindy's.

[Carolina_Packer]

Did any of you ever subscribe to the Packer Report when Ray Nitschke was the editor? In those dark days of the late 70's and very early 80's you'd find out such things as the Packers decided to take Rich Campbell instead of a future hall of famer in Ronnie Lott. Good times!

[pbmax]

you're gonna rip on me for reading lindy's, yet you're gonna listen to mel kiper? i'd rather listen to scouting reports from my dog then listen to mel

Is that mel or me!

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both

[mraynrand]

Did any of you ever subscribe to the Packer Report when Ray Nitschke was the editor? In those dark days of the late 70's and very early 80's you'd find out such things as the Packers decided to take Rich Campbell instead of a future hall of famer in Ronnie Lott. Good times!

I remember getting the PR delivered to the dorm:

With inspiring headlines like: "Tom Flynn is a great defensive back"

[mraynrand]

It makes more sense thinking of the Randall as a corner.

I'm calling him "The Randall" from now on. "The Randall is a Great Defensive Back"

[mraynrand]

Actually, you put The Randall and Wood in the same sentence. I didn't.

Zing!

[mraynrand]

I'm gonna give The Randall The Benefit of The Doubt until they start making him wear boxing gloves in practice.

[wist43]

Did any of you ever subscribe to the Packer Report when Ray Nitschke was the editor? In those dark days of the late 70's and very early 80's you'd find out such things as the Packers decided to take Rich Campbell instead of a future hall of famer in Ronnie Lott. Good times!

When back here in Wisconsin I just bought it off the rack, but when I was overseas in the Navy and living out of state I subscribed to it.

It was always the highlight of mail call if I got a PR in... there were several Packer fans on the ship and I was the only one with subscription, so I was a popular guy when each issue would arrive.

This was at a time well before cell phones - we sometimes didn't get sports scores for a day or two afterward. Just depended on message traffic - if there wasn't much going on we'd get the news and sports sent to us, but if we were involved in wargames or there was some sort of heightened alert, we might not get sports info for days at a time.

[wist43]

Actually, you put Randall and Wood in the same sentence. I didn't.

In the context of an admonition, it is allowable... please read the PackerFan bylaws.

[Maxie the Taxi]

In the context of an admonition, it is allowable... please read the PackerFan bylaws.

Point taken. By the way, I've seen Willie Wood take down Jim Brown by a shoestring many times. Brown was 6'2" 232 lbs.

[Patler]

That 106 tackles is just a number... watch the tape, and everytime he escorts a receiver out of bounds?? That's considered a "tackle". He may not have even touched the guy, but b/c he was the closest defender, he gets credit for the tackle.

He's so small, and plays even smaller - that the only chance he has to get guys on the ground is to dive at their ankles, hence the charge that he is an "ankle biter".

He may be able to play the slot, and he may be able to stay with #3 WR's on the NFL level, but he had no business being a 1st round draft pick... terrible tackler, just terrible.

The more I watch of this guy, the more I'm shocked that anyone would think he was a 1st round pick.

I've watched quite a few videos of him since last night, and did not see him "escorting" receivers out of bounds any significant number of times. All DBs use the sidelines to make tackles when near it. Why shouldn't they?

I did see a guy who missed a few tackles, but at least he missed while actually trying to make a tackle. I've seen a lot of worse efforts from Tramon Williams waiving at ball carries, or running side by side with them for 10 yards while hand fighting with them. Sadly, in today's NFL, CBs are no longer paid because of their tackling ability.

Because the effort appears to be there, I think he can improve at tackling

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alright, i watched the rest of those videos, and although he looks "ok", at no point did i think i was watching a must have first round player

and it can't be overlooked that we just went from picking from all the ILBs to probably hoping we get at least 1 left over after everyone else is done picking through them, just to draft this guy. so he damn well better turn out to be wood jr, or else this will go down as a massive fail for TT in my eyes

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has anyone ele mentioned that he's added 20 pounds since the college season ended?

so bigger, but maybe slower

[Maxie the Taxi]

has anyone ele mentioned that he's added 20 pounds since the college season ended?

so bigger, but maybe slower

Yeah, I think Wist mentioned it...artificial weight he put on for the combine.