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    He grabbed her arm first, so he is faces the problem of escalation as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    He grabbed her arm first, so he is faces the problem of escalation as well.

    She made a fist....lol....I showed that to my wife and she said it was her fault. I disagree, she had no shot in that fight and he kind of started it by trying to force his way to the bar. She looked kind of hammered though, then kind of groggy after she started spitting out teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    She made a fist....lol....I showed that to my wife and she said it was her fault. I disagree, she had no shot in that fight and he kind of started it by trying to force his way to the bar. She looked kind of hammered though, then kind of groggy after she started spitting out teeth.
    Looks to me to be a combination of idiot and idiot. Looks like she pushed ahead of him for the open bar spot then specifically stuck her ass out to block him. He should have let it go, but decided to go alpha. Stupid + stupid = stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    He grabbed her arm first, so he is faces the problem of escalation as well.
    Yup, he made contact first. That is a no-no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    He grabbed her arm first, so he is faces the problem of escalation as well.
    What a mess. I watched the video many times this morning. As they approached the bar, she leaned back and said something to him. I'm sure he was sounding off too, but we can't see that. She turned toward him with her right fist raised, which he grabbed and pulled down. It looks like he was also grabbing for her left arm, but she raised her fist and hit him, and he countered. I don't understand the impulse that caused him to hit her as he did, even though she had struck him.

    Where have manners have gone? At bars, ticket lines, stadium entrances, etc., I have always backed away from the shoving match, looked at the other person (male of female), and said "Please, go ahead of me." Funny thing is, their response is often, "No, no. Please, you go first." Courtesy begets courtesy, rudeness begets rudeness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    What a mess. I watched the video many times this morning. As they approached the bar, she leaned back and said something to him. I'm sure he was sounding off too, but we can't see that. She turned toward him with her right fist raised, which he grabbed and pulled down. It looks like he was also grabbing for her left arm, but she raised her fist and hit him, and he countered. I don't understand the impulse that caused him to hit her as he did, even though she had struck him.

    Where have manners have gone? At bars, ticket lines, stadium entrances, etc., I have always backed away from the shoving match, looked at the other person (male of female), and said "Please, go ahead of me." Funny thing is, their response is often, "No, no. Please, you go first." Courtesy begets courtesy, rudeness begets rudeness.
    Supposedly she knees him in the nuts, called him the N word, and threw a punched. Pretty much when dumb people drink these things tend to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Supposedly she knees him in the nuts, called him the N word, and threw a punched.
    I don't get that kind of confrontational vibe from her (not even the punch), she looks punchy and looped. The kind of near staggering drunk you do all you can to avoid knocking down as you walk by. But that doesn't tell you where her mind is at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I don't get that kind of confrontational vibe from her (not even the punch), she looks punchy and looped. The kind of near staggering drunk you do all you can to avoid knocking down as you walk by. But that doesn't tell you where her mind is at.

    That's my take. She looked kind of hammered. Maybe I have went overboard slightly about barging in comment. I've been in crowded bars and that happens all the time. She did get on him for bumping her, I highly doubt he got kneed in the jewels, that's his agent trying to salvage a division 1 scholly. It escalated quick and you could see he easily overpowered her when he grabbed her arm. Absolutely no need to blast her one. Drinking age is 21, I'm guessing village people bartender wouldn't card him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Supposedly she knees him in the nuts, called him the N word, and threw a punched. Pretty much when dumb people drink these things tend to happen.
    I had to watch a few times to catch the knee - it's there, but pretty innocuous. It happens after he grabs her arm. She puts her knee in the air, it looks like she's using it to create some distance, not driving it up into his groin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Supposedly she knees him in the nuts, called him the N word, and threw a punched. Pretty much when dumb people drink these things tend to happen.
    She obviously threw the timid left hand punch, and I have no reason to doubt that the others may have occurred, too. Even if all of that is true, it all would have happened after he had the opportunity to be courteous and allow her to have the spot at the bar. Had he done that, she would have had no reason to do any of the other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    She obviously threw the timid left hand punch, and I have no reason to doubt that the others may have occurred, too. Even if all of that is true, it all would have happened after he had the opportunity to be courteous and allow her to have the spot at the bar. Had he done that, she would have had no reason to do any of the other things.
    I completely agree, but in this day and age, having the maturity to "lose" a confrontation seems like a scarce characteristic. It's an entitled generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    She obviously threw the timid left hand punch, and I have no reason to doubt that the others may have occurred, too. Even if all of that is true, it all would have happened after he had the opportunity to be courteous and allow her to have the spot at the bar. Had he done that, she would have had no reason to do any of the other things.
    There was enough space for two if she just squeezes in to let him past the other women. Had she done that, none of the other things would have occurred.

    Note also that he said "Excuse me" or the like to the other women, so it wasn't like he was throwing his weight around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    ... called him the N word...
    Maybe she was just singing a song
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Maybe she was just singing a song
    Guess you one of those "they call themselves that so why can't I" type of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Guess you one of those "they call themselves that so why can't I" type of people.
    Maybe he was singing too, so she thought he was calling her a Motha*ucker or a ho. It's not about race, it's about vulgarity. Again, a good topic for FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Guess you one of those "they call themselves that so why can't I" type of people.
    No, I'm a "If you don't want 'x' to be uttered then don't utter 'x'" type of people.
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