Slight OT - Florida State QB punches girl in bar

[SkinBasket]

I'm no lawyer, but he seems to clearly make first aggressive contact. More importantly, I think the question of her being a woman is covered under your responsibility to use appropriate proportional force if you feel you are "defending yourself." It's going to be hard to convince anyone that his response was proportional to the "threat" her pussy punch posed to him, even if you buy his lawyer's argument that she initiated the incident, which looks dubious at best. In fact, judging from her response, it looks like she may have felt there was some harassing contact as they jostle for space. Assplay in other words. Or grabass if you prefer.

More disturbing is the bartender's outfit.

It's too bad the whole bar didn't just blow up and kill everyone inside.

[mraynrand]

More disturbing is the bartender's outfit.

Village people are people too.

[smuggler]

She threw a knee before he grabbed her. They're both stupid, but nobody goes to jail for this one. She gets off because she's a powerless woman and the law pities her. He because she struck first. Ho hum.

[Guiness]

She was definitely acting like a douche herself, being pushy, you can almost hear her say 'keep your hands off me!' getting in his face, making a fist and waving it around a bit. Having said that, it was all drunken bravado, and he should've shrugged it off, not grabbed his arm.

IMO it's pretty murky after that. How stupid was she to throw a punch? Piss-poor a punch as it was, she landed one on his jaw. If I did that to a guy in a bar, I'd be fully prepared for whatever came right back at me.

At the end of it all, I agree that no one ends up with anything out of this.

[pbmax]

Did he disappear from the scene or did the choppy video just make it seem that way.

[Rastak]

Did he disappear from the scene or did the choppy video just make it seem that way.

The story made it sound like he got tossed but he definitely slunk away.


I agree with Skin on the bartender outfit.......geez, what sort of bar was that?

[Freak Out]

Guy is a douche bag extraordinaire. Who cares if she stuck her ass out and blocked him from the bar? Future wife beater for sure.

[Rastak]

Guy is a douche bag extraordinaire. Who cares if she stuck her ass out and blocked him from the bar? Future wife beater for sure.

You could see he pretty much could manhandle her and she had no chance. She struck me as an annoying drunk but he didn't need to KO her.

[Patler]

The title of this thread needs to be changed to:

"Former Florida State QB punches girl in bar "

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...king-woman-bar

[pbmax]

Wow. Wonder if its permanent in the normal sense, or permanent in the baseball suspension sense (back in 2 games).

[th87]

I like how the hipster to the right had no reaction whatsoever.

They both should be charged with something or other - he more severely. She tried to get in the way as he tried to squeeze between the other women, using his hands to grab the bar to gain balance. She then turned around with fist upraised, threatening to use it. He grabbed the fist and pushed it into her body, she tried to kick/knee him in the groin and then threw the "punch", and he threw the haymaker. Both idiots and both should be charged, but what did she think was going to happen if she tried to throw hands at some random stranger?

[Brandon494]

Both parties involved are idiots...but its Florida so what do you expect?

[Brandon494]

Not sure what to think of this goofy shit. He comes barging in for a drink, she takes umbrage and puts up her dukes like "let's settle this now", he kind of manhandles her a bit then she lands a weak left to the face and he delivers the stunning blow.

I think I gotta take her side here but when you throw the first punch you gotta be sure it's gonna count.

Barging in? Which video did you watch? Also have you ever been to a bar? People are going to bump into you especially at the serving area, she was acting like a drunk immature bitch while he acted like a drunk immature asshole to retaliate.

Now not saying I agree but if she was a man it would have been self defense...everyone wants equal rights until they get punched in the face.

[SkinBasket]

Black lives matter!

Of course they'll march out the "she called me a nigger," defense. It still works and apparently trumps civility, social order, and the rule of law. I'm sure he also didn't have disparaging words for her.

[Brandon494]

Black lives matter!

Of course they'll march out the "she called me a nigger," defense. It still works and apparently trumps civility, social order, and the rule of law. I'm sure he also didn't have disparaging words for her.

Some things don't change...

[Brandon494]

Like I said both are idiots, obviously he's the better one here but the way OP explains it makes it seem like she's an angel which clearly isn't the case.

[pbmax]

Like I said both are idiots, obviously he's the better one here but the way OP explains it makes it seem like she's an angel which clearly isn't the case.

Better one? Less drunk maybe, but ultimately dumber.

[Brandon494]

Better one? Less drunk maybe, but ultimately dumber.

Meant to type "bigger"

[KYPack]

Meant to type "bigger"

Bigger?

You mean Begro, doncha?

[Patler]

The problem was that he, as so many others, didn't realize how much more he had to lose than she did. If this happened between two run-of-the-mill students, the school likely would not have been involved. If the school had been, maybe some minor discipline notation in their files would have been about it.

But, this was an athlete, and a football player at that. He lost his opportunity to play football there, and I bet the thought of that possibility never crossed his mind at anytime since he arrived on campus, let alone at the time of the confrontation.