Brady 4 Game Suspension Upheld

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Roger gave himself a literal vote of confidence.

Also this: http://deadspin.com/nfl-upholds-tom-...ion-1720647254

Brady directed that the cell phone he had used for the prior four months be destroyed. He did so even though he was aware that the investigators had requested access to text messages and other electronic information that had been stored on that phone. During the four months that the cell phone was in use, Brady had exchanged nearly 10,000 text messages, none of which can now be retrieved from that device. The destruction of the cell phone was not disclosed until June 18, almost four months after the investigators had first sought electronic information from Brady.

Its sweet poetic justice that Roger is going to lose this in Court while Brady looks very guilty.

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Ben VolinVerified @BenVolin
Brady's explanation for destroying his phone: He always does this when he gets a new phone

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Jim Trotter ‏@JimTrotter_NFL 1h1 hour ago
Tom Brady has authorized the NFLPA to appeal his case in federal court, per source.

Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 46s46 seconds ago
Here's the complaint for the preemptive lawsuit the NFL filed in the Southern District of New York vs the NFLPA http://smartfootball.com/wp-content/...filed-7-28.pdf …


Translation: the NFL knew this was going to the Courts, and Brady probably did too.

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 19m19 minutes ago
Interesting. @judybattista says the sides were moving close to a 1-game suspension settlement. But Brady wanted records sealed. NFL wouldn’t

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 4m4 minutes ago
PA response RT @GeorgeAtallah: Any report that suggests two sides were coming close on a settlement in the Brady matter is rubbish.

Ross TuckerVerified account
‏@RossTuckerNFL
Why would Brady want records sealed if nothing to hide?

Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 10m10 minutes ago
OK, everyone send me your bank statements and college transcripts. I'm discreet, I swear. http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Pri...ven-if/127461/ …

Robert Klemko ‏@RobertKlemko 14m14 minutes ago
Tom Brady's not a moron. After phone destruction revelation, obvious next question: Who was he protecting?


During playoffs, everyone was convinced Brady did something to violate the spirit, if not the letter of the rules. After the Wells Report, no one believed the science anymore and thought Goodell overreacted. Now everyone is convinced Brady is guilty of something.

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Good

[King Friday]

I don't think Brady has an automatic win in court on this one.

If he had not destroyed the phone and simply denied access based on any number of "excuses" that could be legally argued in court...he's probably in the clear without much of a problem.

However, the cover up OFTEN winds up costing far more than what the original offense ever would have. It appears that there won't be an exception to that in this case.

[MadScientist]

I could actually get that Brady has his old phone destroyed when he gets a new one, because people would try to grab the data off it and with his celebrity status that would be a big problem. However it just happens to be the day he met with Wells, and he only had the phone for 4 months. Switching phones is a pain, and 4 months is not a normal upgrade cycle. Just way to suspicious to believe that it was a coincidence. If that was the best defense he had, I'm half surprised that Goodell didn't give him 6 games.

[Pugger]

I could actually get that Brady has his old phone destroyed when he gets a new one, because people would try to grab the data off it and with his celebrity status that would be a big problem. However it just happens to be the day he met with Wells, and he only had the phone for 4 months. Switching phones is a pain, and 4 months is not a normal upgrade cycle. Just way to suspicious to believe that it was a coincidence. If that was the best defense he had, I'm half surprised that Goodell didn't give him 6 games.

I don't think Goodell could increase the penalty during the appeals process.

[Rutnstrut]

I could actually get that Brady has his old phone destroyed when he gets a new one, because people would try to grab the data off it and with his celebrity status that would be a big problem. However it just happens to be the day he met with Wells, and he only had the phone for 4 months. Switching phones is a pain, and 4 months is not a normal upgrade cycle. Just way to suspicious to believe that it was a coincidence. If that was the best defense he had, I'm half surprised that Goodell didn't give him 6 games.

Really 4 months not a normal upgrade cycle? He's fucking rich, and probably has someone that does all the bullshit stuff for him. Why wouldn't he want to upgrade, new phones come out so fast that you could easily upgrade every 4 months. I'm not saying he didn't destroy it to hide something, but normal logic does not apply to filthy rich people.

[Guiness]

Really 4 months not a normal upgrade cycle? He's fucking rich, and probably has someone that does all the bullshit stuff for him. Why wouldn't he want to upgrade, new phones come out so fast that you could easily upgrade every 4 months. I'm not saying he didn't destroy it to hide something, but normal logic does not apply to filthy rich people.

He also went from Android to iOS (iOS to Android?). I've known people who've gone in one direction or the other in less than 4 months after getting a new phone.

[Rutnstrut]

He also went from Android to iOS (iOS to Android?). I've known people who've gone in one direction or the other in less than 4 months after getting a new phone.

Same here, hell I have friends that pay full full price to "upgrade" 3 or 4 times a year. Just so they can say they have the latest and greatest, and they are far from millionaires.

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Brady's agent/lawyer says they turned over "unprecedented" documents about his electronic communications. I suspect there are details about what was and wasn't exchanged that we will learn about eventually.

[King Friday]

Brady's agent/lawyer says they turned over "unprecedented" documents about his electronic communications. I suspect there are details about what was and wasn't exchanged that we will learn about eventually.

Documents? Did they photocopy pictures of the phone in pieces?

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Documents? Did they photocopy pictures of the phone in pieces?

No idea. Not much of this makes sense. If you believe Yee (his agent) they were not allowed access to the documentation the Wells report had about its investigation.

[Joemailman]

Is there anything in the CBA which says a player must turn over personal records to the NFL to aid in an investigation of said player?

[Guiness]

Is there anything in the CBA which says a player must turn over personal records to the NFL to aid in an investigation of said player?

Yes, there definitely are. Too lazy to go looking for a reference, but I know there is something in the CBA about it.

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Is there anything in the CBA which says a player must turn over personal records to the NFL to aid in an investigation of said player?

I was under the impression Wells asked Brady to have his attorneys go over the texts and submit only pertinent communications germane to the investigation.

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Generally speaking, as an employee you have a duty to turn over records related to the business if you wish to stay employed (company owns the work product, etc.) But what the CBA says I don't know.

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ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 2h2 hours ago
NFL offered Tom Brady "at least 50 percent reduction" in exchange for admission of guilt http://wp.me/p14QSB-9OqO

"Mr. Brady? You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing."

[Guiness]

this genie is absolutely NOT going back in the bottle