Man I'm tired of hearing of this shit. I admit I haven't followed the case as I frankly don't care anymore at this point. Is Brady basically getting off on a Ryan Braun "chain of command" technicality?
Personally I think Brady was 100% involved with the balls being deflated and the only reason the NFL came down hard on the Pats was because they had already warned them about it. Now we have to listen to the asshole NE fans gloat. UGH.
Go PACK
Pretty much. The judge did not set aside any of the fact findings of the arbitrator. So the decision is not about whether or not Brady was actually involved with bribing people to deflate balls.Originally Posted by Bossman641
Brady is getting off because the league botched this soap opera from day one.
HOFer
exactly
he did it, but due to goodells extreme incompetence, he's gonna get off scot free
If the NFL had just followed my advice following Spygate incident, none of this resulting nonsense would have occurred.
Dispersal draft of the Patriots.
Just force them all to be cut, and let them go through the waiver wire process.
There is something to this. Festering anger over how the Patriots behave like a NASCAR crew chief in search of 2 additional horsepower is part of what drove this process.
If they had a plan to deal with these types of incidents that did not involve backing themselves into corners, they might have tamed Belichick long before this.
But I am not sure the football inflation is worth the battle. If those fumble statistics had held up, then we are talking about a season long advantage (at home at least). But since those numbers have been largely debunked, I am not sure this was the hill to die on.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Ya, there's seems to be a strong undercurrent of resentment in league to these antics. Remember mic picked up Wolf at recent HOF gathering lauding Goodell directly for "handling that Patriot thing" or something to that effect.
I don't think many will shed a tear when the Belichek & Brady reign of terror comes to an end.
Dude, that was funny as hell. He leaned over and said "Great job on the patriot thing". I personally took at as a backhanded insult.
He would have to have some major stones to rip on the commisioner of the game as he's handed the gold jacket. Although Wolf always had a biting personality so I could see it.
But pretty much the battle lines are drawn here.
Players back Brady.
Front office folk back "The Shield."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...sioners-power/
That's two owners now questioning Adolph Goodell.
Are Federal Judges bullies?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...g-for-the-nfl/
Details in article. Berman mentions three things he did not rule on that could haunt the NFL more than losing this appeal.Judge Richard M. Berman surely knows that this happens, which means there’s a chance he included a specific message for the league’s lawyers at the very end of Thursday’s ruling in the Tom Brady case.
And the message may have been, “Appeal this decision at your own peril.”
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Doty did the same thing on the Peterson case. He essentially said you fucked up on points 1-3 and you lose, I am not ruling on points 4 or 5 as it's moot.
I never thought about an appeal being sent back down and the judge simply saying, ok 1-3 seem to be ok by the appeals court but 4 & 5 are illegal too.
I just don't understand how a League that has been dealing with Collective Bargaining for, what, 50 years, fails this utterly.
Jason La Canfora ✔@JasonLaCanfora
The fact the players not given copy of the game day operations manual - which outlines rules for inflation and penalties, also a key fact
Chris B. Brown @smartfootball
NFL really only has themselves to blame as judge was only reviewing process with heavy deference to arbitrator. NFL's "process" is broken.
Translation: If they had a legit process, they could have had the decision they wanted. If they had followed precedent, they then could have amended rules to keep this from happening. Both better options than striking out.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
That's the whole thing to get out of this. Goodell shoots from the hip there are no rules in his mind. I do what I want he seems to think.
Get a process that makes sense. Follow the "law of the shop" as legally required and for god sakes don't have the NFL head lawyers EDITING THE INDEPENDENT FINDINGS.
I mean, is this the ultimate in balls.
They make a big deal about ball's air pressure yet have never had any controls in place. They honestly come off as a bunch of amateur morons in a billion dollar industry.
Your thinking is exactly in line with mine. It's the old 'absolute power corrupts absolutely' and the NFL with its myriad of exemptions has been allowed to run around doing whatever the hell they want for a long, long time.
And the guys who own the teams are largely a bunch of egomaniacal cowboys, which is all kinds of crazy. When you step back and look at it, it's almost crazy it works at all.
Their behavior here is similar to how they've acted in other, seemingly unrelated matters, like the whole concussion issue.
btw I missed the 'editing the independent findings' thing. I assume they doctored the Wells report? More proof of the above.
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Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
Jeffrey Pash, the head lawyer guy for the NFL took the Wells report and made some "edits" which was testified to in court. When Wells was asked what Pash had "edited" he said he wasn't sure but felt the crux of the report was correct and it was just a lawyer "wordsmithing"
Now you gotta have some seeds to try and pull that off. Another lawyer who was working on the "independent report" ended up sitting at the table across from the NFLPA during the appeal, on the payroll of the NFL. I mean, you can't dream this shit up.
Judge: All labor is deceitful and corrupt. Your rules don't take that into account properly. Zaaap!!
The league let the inmates run the asylum when it came to game balls by allowing teams to prepare them instead of the league. The irony in all of this is Brady, along with Manning and others, petitioned the league to change the rules!
That is one thing that LaCanfora's article about changes in the League Office doesn't cover. He openly wonders if the old guard would have botched this so badly.
But Ray Anderson, the Operations guy before Troy Vincent, was the person who put rules into place for QBs to prep the balls.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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