You sick sonofabitch!Originally Posted by pbmax
You sick sonofabitch!
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Its troubling, but tough questions must be asked!You sick sonofabitch!
Actually, after that ESPN article, I suspect they do know and are just not disclosing it to avoid further embarrassment.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
From Bossman's article, the creation of the Integrity go the Game Policy:
Never given to players. Poor foresight.GOODELL MOVED ON immediately -- the same day as Specter's floor statement, actually -- introducing a mandatory "Policy on Integrity of the Game & Enforcement of Competitive Rules" to be signed by owners, team presidents, general managers and head coaches after each season, swearing they had "complied with all League competitive policies." The first thick paragraph detailing prohibited acts reads like a litany of Spygate-era acts and accusations, including "unauthorized videotaping on game day or of practices, meetings or other organized team activities" and the barring of "unauthorized entry into locker rooms, coaches' booths, meeting rooms or other private areas." At the same time, the league also relaxed its investigative standard of proof to the "preponderance of the evidence," making findings of guilt easier, and required the signees to cooperate with NFL investigations.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Yeah, hindsight is 20/20. Even so, they should have reviewed the issue closer prior to deciding and issuing Brady's punishment. Had they done so, they probably would have framed the basis for their decision differently and had better support for punishing Brady.
That's what kills me. Its a process issue. In some order, you knew the QBs had access to the Game Balls and could adjust the inflation AND you knew you had just written up a pretty draconian policy over game integrity and management. Someone should have the job of connecting those dots. And if they didn't, just using the Policy as the blanket cover for the appeal is a stupid ploy by the lawyers. Its so dumb, I want to imaging that Goodell and Pash came up with it on their own without help.
But more realistically, if inflation had ever troubled anyone prior to this it would have been dealt with. That ESPN article shows what role the Patriots reputation played in this formerly obscure and probably immaterial subject becoming the herald of the apocalypse.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Never underestimate what the power of prior bias does to one's ability to think clearly:
Actual owner quotes after the appeal by Brady was upheld."Roger did the right thing -- at last," one owner said after Goodell upheld Brady's punishment. "He looks tough -- and that's good."
"Pleased," said another longtime owner.
"About time," an executive close to another owner said. "Overdue."
"The world has never seen anyone as good as Roger Goodell as a political maneuverer. If he were in Congress, he'd be majority [leader]," one owner says.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Maybe they are thinking clearly, and simply distrust the Patsies.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Let's go to replay review with RW Emerson and Omar from The Wire:
“Never strike a king unless you are sure you shall kill him.”
Seriously though, I agree with the sentiment. But that should enforce the idea that you want a bulletproof investigation and sanction. I think Roger promised more than his lieutenants could deliver.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Much like Henry (don't call me Matthew) Stafford?
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Assuming the prior bias is without basis and irrational?
It actually doesn't matter if the previous assumptions or experience was correct or helpful. Predisposes someone (anyone, not just Deflategate or football or owners) to believe that new evidence or facts support previous experience without a thorough examination.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
We all have biases, and yet many are able to still do a thorough examination. One does not follow the other, unless nobody can ever do a thorough examination. If that is the case, then maybe we should just give up.
I don't mean no one can do a thorough examination. But the self satisfied answers the owners gave were consistent with a group of people who knew what they expected to find. And they wanted action. And not action on a thorough, independent inquiry. Wells might have been involved only to remove Goodell after some owners thought he failed in Spygate.
In order to keep his support and his job, Goodell had to deliver bigger penalties than in Spygate. And he failed, partially based on available evidence (evidence against team stronger than it was against Brady), but also on further decisions like not negotiating a deal with Brady once Kraft gave up the lawsuit. From this point of view, the lawsuit was inevitable. Goodall could not afford to back down. The Judge summoned John Mara to Court and some reporters speculated it was because he suspected Goodell did not have the authority to negotiate terms.
This is all a piece of a man without a plan. Many praised his political skills in that ESPN article. But he lack of other skills is much more troubling. This is why Goodell always looks like a Civil War General for the Union side, who will develop a plan once he is governed by circumstances.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Sports Illustrated piling on as well. Seems like there are a lot of pissed off personnel around the league who are no longer concerned with protecting the reputation of the Patriots.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/08/pat...?xid=si_social
Go PACK
Dispersal draft!!!
I will keep pounding that table until it comes to fruition!
EDIT: Bossman bet me to it.
But that SI article has a little more detail about the Packers catching the Pats recording the defensive signals of Bob Sanders and Co. in 2006.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Patriots Statement on media reports today:
Ben Volin @BenVolin
Here is the statement the #Patriots issued in response to today's ESPN report. Strong stuff
We now know why SportsCenter ran that late night apology to the Patriots. Through the team's cooperation with ESPN, they knew this story was coming down the pike and they extracted an apology for past sins in exchange for cooperation.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/espn...tegate-spygate
This statement also answers nothing about today's articles.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
HOFer
The most shocking thing to me was that the PA s would send low level emplyees into the visitors locker room during pregame to find and steal the other teams scripted plays. When teams caught on to it and tried to lock the doors or have them guarded, pats emplyees would say they couldn't because it was a fire hazard.
The pats also were said to have sent team employees to the visitors hotels pool ng for playbooks or game notes
I think k there should be a new investigation opened, and if any of this is true, belechek should be banned for life
For me, it was that they would have guys on the sidelines wearing their shirts inside out, taping over logos, and wearing Patriots TV or Kraft Productions credentials. Obviously that's a sign that you know what you were doing was wrong and you shouldn't be doing it.
How could Belicheck then feign ignorance and say it was a misinterpretation of a rule?
Go PACK
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