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    Official NFL Notes 2015

    ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 51s51 seconds ago
    By not suspending @NdamukongSuh and @REALPACMAN24, the NFL possibly hoped to avoid a fight it could lose http://wp.me/p14QSB-9QYl

    Unbelievable. On field conduct was the one area on which they had established some consistency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 51s51 seconds ago
    By not suspending @NdamukongSuh and @REALPACMAN24, the NFL possibly hoped to avoid a fight it could lose http://wp.me/p14QSB-9QYl

    Unbelievable. On field conduct was the one area on which they had established some consistency.
    what did you think the fallout was going to be from losing deflate case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    what did you think the fallout was going to be from losing deflate case?
    Start with what works and duplicate that effort. Not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    This isn't rocket surgery; literally thousands of employers know how to navigate this stuff. Stay consistent. Apply the policy you applied in the last 20 cases. If the policy needs to change, give advanced warning. If its a huge change, push it through one of the committees to get input and comments (even if its just a nod in that direction). Then announce.

    As long as you don't make it up as you go along, it'll work just as it has been.

    Now game integrity is a mess and will need a more comprehensive fix. But on field conduct and the Drug and Alcohol Policy have been fine. It almost seems like they are throwing a temper tantrum.

    Speaking of which, Pacman said the guy he was bouncing off his helmet had grabbed or punched his throat. Did anyone see that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Start with what works and duplicate that effort. Not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    This isn't rocket surgery; literally thousands of employers know how to navigate this stuff. Stay consistent. Apply the policy you applied in the last 20 cases. If the policy needs to change, give advanced warning. If its a huge change, push it through one of the committees to get input and comments (even if its just a nod in that direction). Then announce.

    As long as you don't make it up as you go along, it'll work just as it has been.

    Now game integrity is a mess and will need a more comprehensive fix. But on field conduct and the Drug and Alcohol Policy have been fine. It almost seems like they are throwing a temper tantrum.

    Speaking of which, Pacman said the guy he was bouncing off his helmet had grabbed or punched his throat. Did anyone see that?
    this doesn't really answer my question, but seems like a nice exposition of what you wanted to talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    this doesn't really answer my question, but seems like a nice exposition of what you wanted to talk about.
    The answer is the first line. Stick with what works. In game conduct hasn't been an issue in terms of process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    The answer is the first line. Stick with what works. In game conduct hasn't been an issue in terms of process.
    I agree, but that's not what I was rhetorically 'asking.'
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    NFL's version:

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    Rational for #NFL fining but not suspending Pacman: incident on field, Bengals penalized 15 yds, didn't swing helmet, Cooper wasn't injured,
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 51s51 seconds ago
    By not suspending @NdamukongSuh and @REALPACMAN24, the NFL possibly hoped to avoid a fight it could lose http://wp.me/p14QSB-9QYl

    Unbelievable. On field conduct was the one area on which they had established some consistency.
    No kidding. Suh should be suspended and suspended until he retires or he can't play anymore........or until he cleans up his act.
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    Suh didn't do anything, that's why the NFL isn't doing anything to him. He tackled Morris, and was getting off of him and in the process his knee hit Morris' facemask and the helmet came off. Suh's a shit, but this has been way overblown due to who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Suh didn't do anything, that's why the NFL isn't doing anything to him. He tackled Morris, and was getting off of him and in the process his knee hit Morris' facemask and the helmet came off. Suh's a shit, but this has been way overblown due to who he is.
    I agree the helmet came off easy, but watch his leg kick out toward the guys head. It did not look like a natural motion. Also, he literally turns into the runner instead of getting up like a normal person and keeping some distance between them. I have done similar things in sports when the completive juices were really flowing. I think he was looking for some extra contact.

    Is it finable? Maybe not, but it looks deliberate from where I am standing.

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    Looked to me like Suh got up by trying to move through the area occupied by Morris' head. Most players get up by moving into open space. I doubt this was unintentional, but how can you prove it? You can't, and that is why he does it. No different than the "accidental" step backwards last year, right onto Aaron Rodgers leg. It was an awkward, long step; but you can't prove any intent. Just a coincidence that he landed on such a small target, and a gimpy one at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    Looked to me like Suh got up by trying to move through the area occupied by Morris' head. Most players get up by moving into open space. I doubt this was unintentional, but how can you prove it? You can't, and that is why he does it. No different than the "accidental" step backwards last year, right onto Aaron Rodgers leg. It was an awkward, long step; but you can't prove any intent. Just a coincidence that he landed on such a small target, and a gimpy one at that.
    Time for some old school justice? Every offensive lineman should accidentally step on him several times a game and be sure to walk through his head at every opportunity. As long as you don't look while you are making contact they can't prove it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    Time for some old school justice? Every offensive lineman should accidentally step on him several times a game and be sure to walk through his head at every opportunity. As long as you don't look while you are making contact they can't prove it!
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    Theoretically speaking, I wonder what would happen if Morris went to the Player's Union and wanted to pursue a complaint? While it sometimes seems the player's union is only interested in opposing the NFL front office, they do represent the players after all. It would never happen, but I wonder if they actually could oppose the NFL for failing to issue a punishment? That would be hilarious to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    Theoretically speaking, I wonder what would happen if Morris went to the Player's Union and wanted to pursue a complaint? While it sometimes seems the player's union is only interested in opposing the NFL front office, they do represent the players after all. It would never happen, but I wonder if they actually could oppose the NFL for failing to issue a punishment? That would be hilarious to see.
    I've been wondering that also. If I was an NFL player and they were suspending guys for using steroids and HGH, I wouldn't want the NFLPA to defend those guys. They are taking away my money by using illegal substances to improve their performance. That hurts my production verses other players and lowers my value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    I've been wondering that also. If I was an NFL player and they were suspending guys for using steroids and HGH, I wouldn't want the NFLPA to defend those guys. They are taking away my money by using illegal substances to improve their performance. That hurts my production verses other players and lowers my value.
    or forcing you to take risks to stay competitive. But having the NFLPA go against players might be seen to weaken the NFLPA, and to weaken player rights. It's a fine line to walk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    or forcing you to take risks to stay competitive. But having the NFLPA go against players might be seen to weaken the NFLPA, and to weaken player rights. It's a fine line to walk.
    I think they are firmly on one side of the line: Oppose the NFL front office in favor of individuals, even if it might be short-sighted and detrimental to players as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    I think they are firmly on one side of the line: Oppose the NFL front office in favor of individuals, even if it might be short-sighted and detrimental to players as a whole.
    I don't think that's been the case for quite some time. All the recent cases have been about the Player Conduct Policy, which in retrospect, was constructed and approved in a short-sighted and ill conceived manner, even if all agreed on the overall purpose.

    Last time the NFLPA was involved in a PED case that challenged the ruling was Star Caps I think. All the other stuff is procedural. And if I am not mistaken (not a good bet this week) the NFLPA was very reluctant on this, the players themselves initiated the suit with David Cornwall I think.

    Outside of those, the other obvious one is BountyGate. And it was an ex-commissioner who pulled the rug out from Roger on that one, it wasn't the Courts. Though the NFLPA wanted neutral arbitration on that one. Not exactly short sighted there either.

    If you want to see where the NFLPA's loyalties lie, watch them march with the League on the concussion settlement, because their future was on the line too. Several of the lawsuits named both the NFL and NFLPA jointly as defendants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    I've been wondering that also. If I was an NFL player and they were suspending guys for using steroids and HGH, I wouldn't want the NFLPA to defend those guys. They are taking away my money by using illegal substances to improve their performance. That hurts my production verses other players and lowers my value.
    If it were me, I would want the NFLPA to stand up and force the NFL to live up to the letter of the agreement. So that nothing unexpected happens to me if I find out Twix has a natural diuretic in it. That is what I would expect.

    I am not sure Aaron Rodgers wants the PED users on his O line to get what's coming to them for being naughty. So the folks who want PEDs gone are outnumbered by users and those that benefit directly.

    People view this issue entirely differently in the NFL than they do in baseball. The last time there was outrage about the size of NFL players, it was around Refrigerator Perry's rookie year. Its also interesting to note that not a lot of NFL players are undersized now like they became in baseball. The entire game changed there after testing was announced. Football not so much.
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    PED policy and medical clearance policies are better for the players than the league. It doesn't matter if the PA is too dumb to fucking understand it.

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