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    Sometimes I think there is more of a pocket than the TV angle leads us to believe. On one of McCarren's shows last week, ARodgers was the guest. They showed the final play from a high angle behind the play. What looked like real pressure from Bulaga's man was really not nearly as in Rodgers face as I had thought. Rodgers even said the pressure wasn't that bad, but he went away from Cobb because the defense had leverage which usually ruins that play. But he admitted the "rub" was designed to do exactly as it did; and he should have stayed on Cobb longer.

    So while the announcers described it as pressure from Bulaga's guy, another angle disproved that, and Rodgers discredited that as the reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    Sometimes I think there is more of a pocket than the TV angle leads us to believe. On one of McCarren's shows last week, ARodgers was the guest. They showed the final play from a high angle behind the play. What looked like real pressure from Bulaga's man was really not nearly as in Rodgers face as I had thought. Rodgers even said the pressure wasn't that bad, but he went away from Cobb because the defense had outside leverage, which usually ruins that play. But he admitted the "rub" was designed to do exactly as it did; and he should have stayed on Cobb longer.

    So while the announcers described it as pressure from Bulaga's guy, another angle disproved that, and Rodgers discredited that as the reason.
    Must be my lyin' eyes again - I saw the defender push Bulaga right into the pocket, even with Stark's assist. Something frightened Rodgers there and it wasn't ISIS.

    I suspect a white lie told to watching scouts - and a bit of CYA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Must be my lyin' eyes again - I saw the defender push Bulaga right into the pocket, even with Stark's assist. Something frightened Rodgers there and it wasn't ISIS.

    I suspect a white lie told to watching scouts - and a bit of CYA.
    Well, that's what I thought too, until I saw it from a different angle. The initial pressure was more straight up the field, not toward the pocket. By the way, they showed it also again as a split screen, Rodgers in one and Cobb and Jones in the other. Rodgers didn't give it a chance, he looked at and turned away from Cobb well before the defenders collided and well before Cobb made his break. He never gave the play a chance to work, because he didn't think it would work. But it did work and he really would have had time to get it there had he stuck with the play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    Well, that's what I thought too, until I saw it from a different angle. The initial pressure was more straight up the field, not toward the pocket. By the way, they showed it also again as a split screen, Rodgers in one and Cobb and Jones in the other. Rodgers didn't give it a chance, he looked at and turned away from Cobb well before the defenders collided and well before Cobb made his break. He never gave the play a chance to work, because he didn't think it would work. But it did work and he really would have had time to get it there had he stuck with the play.
    I'll go back and dissect it. Maybe when I'm dead. Which might be sooner than later. But I won't be able to get back to you with my analysis. You'll have to live with the mystery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I'll go back and dissect it. Maybe when I'm dead. Which might be sooner than later. But I won't be able to get back to you with my analysis. You'll have to live with the mystery.
    Regardless, I will probably go with the McCarren/Rodgers analysis, because, .....well....., you probably get the idea.

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    Another interesting tidbit from Rodgers on a play that had pressure up the middle. I forget which play right now. He said the call was for the blockers to allow pressure up the middle, his intent was to roll right and he said the rushers there would be no problem. But, he said he hesitated, then went left instead, right at the guys they let come through. He said he made that one look awful bad when the line did as they were supposed to.

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    Rodgers flat admitted after the game he came off Cobb nearly immediately when he spied what Tillman was doing (inside leverage on Jones). Didn't think the pick would work that well. What scared him off the throw was Tillman's technique. He said he was wrong not to trust the route.

    Everyone on the planet thought the pass rush is what scared him, including Jaworski who was bellowing something about seeing ghosts this weekend.

    I think the pressure kept him from staying on Cobb or Jones (Jones broke open too it was such a good pick) for any length of time. As it turned out, the bigger threat was up the middle and he side stepped into it.

    Bob's scouts are overselling a mediocre performance. The line is problematic, but talented, and it can get its act together for a while. Its also having trouble with middle pressure for the first time since the RBs were rookies.
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