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    "This offense really misses big plays and has not found a way to manufacture them at previous rates"

    That is on the coaching staff. I didn't expect them to "replace" Jordy, but they had plenty of time to come up with something. At this point they have come up with absolutely NOTHING. Too bad stubby hates running the ball. I really think they could set a lot up off the run if he would stick with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    "This offense really misses big plays and has not found a way to manufacture them at previous rates"

    That is on the coaching staff. I didn't expect them to "replace" Jordy, but they had plenty of time to come up with something. At this point they have come up with absolutely NOTHING. Too bad stubby hates running the ball. I really think they could set a lot up off the run if he would stick with it.
    I agree Rut! The Denver and Carolina games became lost causes for running the ball. The Detroit and Chicago games were never really out of striking distance, and the Packers should have kept trying to run the ball in order to somehow improve the passing game. Again, it's one thing to be way behind and the opponent knows you can't realistically run to get back in the game, but if it's a close game and you go pass heavy too quickly, that is limiting your options.
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    I think their belief (going back to last year) was that relying on long plays was not sustainable. I think the no huddle is an effort to get a short game up to the level of the Pats or Manning (prior to this year).

    Its logical to a degree. But this is year #2 that it has failed to deliver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I think their belief (going back to last year) was that relying on long plays was not sustainable. I think the no huddle is an effort to get a short game up to the level of the Pats or Manning (prior to this year).

    Its logical to a degree. But this is year #2 that it has failed to deliver.
    But stubby thinks it should work, so they will keep running it and failing.

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    One thing about the end of the Bears game...I don't usually complain about play calling. However, the Packers had the ball at the Bears 19 with 1:47 on the clock and never ran the ball again. Packers had had a reasonable pass/rush ratio up until that point. I was a little disappointed that they abandoned the run at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    One thing about the end of the Bears game...I don't usually complain about play calling. However, the Packers had the ball at the Bears 19 with 1:47 on the clock and never ran the ball again. Packers had had a reasonable pass/rush ratio up until that point. I was a little disappointed that they abandoned the run at that point.
    It seems like in high stress situations, stubby always falls back on the pass. Whether it's working or not.

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    I wondered about that, too. It was clear the passing game was not working, and there was time for at least one run. I also wondered why, down at the eight, they didn't roll Rodgers out and give him the option to run. The passing game just sucked. Or try that shovel pass to Lacy in the middle of the line. I know the clock was a factor, and maybe that was it.

    But in the end, they had four shots, and twice Packer receivers could not hang on to what would have been the game-winning TD. That's not play calling. That's execution.
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    Let's break it down:

    www.scout.com/embed/video/1617927

    Plug that in and I think you will get a full window view of Scout.com's video of Packer WR drills. Some takeaways:

    1. Abbredaris is simply a cut above in his cuts, and getting out of them quickly.
    2. Adams rounds them both off, making it easier to get around him (over the top or cut underneath). In fact, not sure you can call that a cut.
    3. Janis is mediocre (but he does shorten and drop his weight), but he drops both balls, one of which was behind him. He is not fast out of those cuts though.
    4. Jones is just slow and rounds the route.
    5. Cobb is Schroedinger's WR. His first cut is awful. The second one is much better. Wonder if he has a beat up leg that is affecting going to his right.
    6. Ed Williams (19) isn't bad but he doesn't shorten his stride very much. On a wet field, he is going to slip.
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    those round-offs just look lazy. Same with Janis catching. You play how you practice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    those round-offs just look lazy. Same with Janis catching. You play how you practice!
    You and I could do better. Think you could get us a tryout? (I make good cuts but my 40 time is 11 minutes, 4 seconds.)
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    The lose of Nelson doesn't turn a promising receiving core into shit. There is no way that Cobb has turned to shit in less than a year because he doesn't play next to Nelson. Adams doesn't seem to have progressed the way he has needed to from year one to year two. I think having to deal with single coverage all last year and being the third option.

    Jones has never been one to get separation, he uses his body well to shield defenders. His talents or lack of talents shouldn't be a surprise.

    The big question is the play of Aaron Rodgers. He has always been heralded for making the players around him better. If that is the case, what the hell is happening this year?

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    Maybe he's making them worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Maybe he's making them worse.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Maybe he's making them worse.
    You are correct!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_blonde View Post
    embarrassing!

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    As much as some of you may think I'm a hater. I give aaron infinite props for this win. His play in the second half was stellar. The td to Adams was a beautiful throw. And let's not disregard that few people On the planet can throw the ball that high and that deep for the game winner. 68 yds and a moonshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    As much as some of you may think I'm a hater. I give aaron infinite props for this win. His play in the second half was stellar. The td to Adams was a beautiful throw. And let's not disregard that few people On the planet can throw the ball that high and that deep for the game winner. 68 yds and a moonshot.
    Don't forget the TD run with Ansah chasing him. Aaron must be fast because during the telecast, they showed Ansah catching AP from behind on a long TD run. MrAynRand, when I scrolled down and saw your last post, I almost did one of those old-fashioned spit takes with my coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    MrAynRand, when I scrolled down and saw your last post, I almost did one of those old-fashioned spit takes with my coffee.
    Capture that picture and send it to Mr. Blonde!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Capture that picture and send it to Mr. Blonde!
    Why??? What is that even suppose to mean???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_blonde View Post
    Why??? What is that even suppose to mean???
    You have a vivid imagination. You could write Disney screenplays.
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