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    On the last two drives, does Rodgers pretty well call the plays or is he still getting it from the sidelines? Seems he was right on the last two drives, either it's the pace of the game or the play calling but if they/he could play the whole 60 minutes like the last 10 we'ld be okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    The 2pt conversion throw was not accurate enough. If he leads Adams outside, it's a catch. The throw was too far inside toward the defender who knocked the ball out of his hands. It was not a drop. Last week same scenario. Game on the line, Aaron didn't make the throw he needed to make.
    Not a fantastic throw, but good enough. Adams let that ball get into his body and he knew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deake View Post
    On the last two drives, does Rodgers pretty well call the plays or is he still getting it from the sidelines? Seems he was right on the last two drives, either it's the pace of the game or the play calling but if they/he could play the whole 60 minutes like the last 10 we'ld be okay.
    I was wondering about this too: why were they able to score at will at the end of the last 2 games when they absolutely had to in order to catch up? What is going on the rest of the game where they cannot move the ball as well? Are they just being forced into taking more risks and happen to be pretty good at making those pay off?

    Actually, I think 1 factor is that Rodgers is willing to take more punishment at the end of the game in order to pull it out. Maybe the first 3 quarters are mostly an act of self preservation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
    Not a fantastic throw, but good enough. Adams let that ball get into his body and he knew it.
    Adams Draft Profile says:
    Extends outside his frame and plucks the ball out of the air. Natural hands-catcher. Terrific athlete with good leaping ability and anticipation to properly time jumps and highpoint the ball. Wins jumpballs in the red zone and shows very good hand-eye coordination to take the ball away from defenders.
    He sure didn't show that Sunday. I think he's overrated.
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    I've heard the comparison thrown around today between Rodgers's last 3 games and Brady's first 4 games of 2014. Everyone was wondering whether Brady was done at the beginning of last year and he went on to win the superbowl. That's the wax and wane of the league... teams figure out a way to stymie good teams/players and those teams and players usually get past it and elevate their game or figure out a way around.

    M3 has overseen a stretch of offensive funk in most years. It typically has been at the beginning of the year. The Packers always seem to work through it.

    Rodgers too will work through his issues. If he's getting eaten up on the way his WRs are getting covered, he'll figure out where they're open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
    Not a fantastic throw, but good enough. Adams let that ball get into his body and he knew it.
    A better throw doesn't force Adams to have to use the middle of his body to catch the ball/impede the defender. He could have made a tougher grab at it and the Db made a great play, but if Aaron makes an accurate throw none of that matters. Our offense and the team's success is dependent on him making crisp, good throws. Not just ok ones. Especially with our receivers struggling to find space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    A better throw doesn't force Adams to have to use the middle of his body to catch the ball/impede the defender. He could have made a tougher grab at it and the Db made a great play, but if Aaron makes an accurate throw none of that matters. Our offense and the team's success is dependent on him making crisp, good throws. Not just ok ones. Especially with our receivers struggling to find space.
    Maybe Rodgers is going Galt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Our offense and the team's success is dependent on him making crisp, good throws.
    MMMMMMMmmmmmmmm......crispy throws....

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    Crispy throws you taste so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    A better throw doesn't force Adams to have to use the middle of his body to catch the ball/impede the defender. He could have made a tougher grab at it and the Db made a great play, but if Aaron makes an accurate throw none of that matters. Our offense and the team's success is dependent on him making crisp, good throws. Not just ok ones. Especially with our receivers struggling to find space.
    A better throw happens when a defender isn't unblocked right up the middle
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    your post certainly improved it
    Thanks! I thought so too.

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    The lesson is this:

    Losing after winning is terrible. Cub fans are so gonna regret this brief flirtation with competitiveness.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Yes, Rodgers could have made Adams' (or is it Adams's) job easier, but Adams isn't paid to catch only the easy ones. He was at much at fault as Rodgers.

    If Rodgers has to be perfect for our receivers to perform well, this is way out of wack.

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    Even though Adams is in his second year, he made a classic rookie mistake. You can't wait for the ball to come to you in the NFL.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    Yes, Rodgers could have made Adams' (or is it Adams's) job easier, but Adams isn't paid to catch only the easy ones. He was at much at fault as Rodgers.

    If Rodgers has to be perfect for our receivers to perform well, this is way out of wack.
    Eli Manning agrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    A better throw happens when a defender isn't unblocked right up the middle
    It was a 2 step drop with single coverage on Adams. The play was designed to take the blitz out of the equation, and it did. He didn't have a hand in his face or get hit as he was throwing. He is an elite NFL qb, he has to play better. That includes making some plays with defenders within 5 feet of him. I know the o-line is very culpable in all of this, but on the last play it was not the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    It was a 2 step drop with single coverage on Adams. The play was designed to take the blitz out of the equation, and it did. He didn't have a hand in his face or get hit as he was throwing. He is an elite NFL qb, he has to play better. That includes making some plays with defenders within 5 feet of him. I know the o-line is very culpable in all of this, but on the last play it was not the issue.
    How close was the defender during his throwing motion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    Yes, Rodgers could have made Adams' (or is it Adams's) job easier, but Adams isn't paid to catch only the easy ones. He was at much at fault as Rodgers.

    If Rodgers has to be perfect for our receivers to perform well, this is way out of wack.
    If Rodgers has to be perfect we need a new set of WRs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    It was a 2 step drop with single coverage on Adams. The play was designed to take the blitz out of the equation, and it did. He didn't have a hand in his face or get hit as he was throwing. He is an elite NFL qb, he has to play better. That includes making some plays with defenders within 5 feet of him. I know the o-line is very culpable in all of this, but on the last play it was not the issue.
    This is the first thing you've said that actually rings true for me. He makes a metric fuck ton of money to be elite. It's not 100% on him but he is the leader so time to circle the wagons.


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    Let's hope team meetings are more productive than the internet. Someone needs to step up and stop sucking.

    I think its even odds between Rodgers and Adams. Adams is just getting his camp/preseason shape back. Rodgers is hearing "LOOKOUT" when he is at a drive through.

    One of them will figure it out.

    4:1 - Rodgers
    4:1 - Adams
    5:1 - M3 (pistol and ZBS with Starks)
    6:1 - Healed or Svelte Lacy plus M3 (pistol and power game)
    15:1 - M3 dumps no huddle
    15:1 - M3 installs Monty
    1000:1 - M3 installs Quarless offense
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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