Cobb had 3 drops. Jones had one. All of Cobb's were on 3rd down iirc.
Cobb had 3 drops. Jones had one. All of Cobb's were on 3rd down iirc.
Yeah, I thought Cobb had an awful game, as not only did he drop passes he normally catches, but all were critical drops. Let's hope this was a one off bad game for him.Originally Posted by smuggler
What's with all the excuses for aaron?
You can say I am being unreasonable, but this dude is supposed to be the greatest, smartest, most accurate qb on Earth. And our team is built around him. Injuries or not, his level of play has been has been complete shit. We just lost to the Lions and Bears at home. Out classed by Stafford and Jay Cutler........ fucking Jay Cutler.
Rodgers is not having a great year by any stretch of the imagination, but this team would have 2 wins, maybe, without him.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
So true!!
Brandon Marshall, MAN...!!
Jimmie Johnson: Nascar's G.O.A.T......
There is no REAL way to prove or disprove that. You could just as well say that they'd be undefeated with Tolzien as the starter since there is really no way to prove it.
HOFer
Awesome.
A damning indictment of the overall talent level of this team.
With an o'fer so far this season in these opportunities, Aaron Rodgers is still stuck at 101st all time in NFL history with 13 career game winning drives. Tied with the likes of Elvis Grbac, Vince Young, and yes Don Majkowski. He is trailing 19 other ACTIVE qbs in this category.
^^^ Dyoop - I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that sequence right there.
Just remember Runtnstunt - never ever use logic, rely solely on proof. Yep, I won't be holding my breath.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
The Cowboys were serious contender for the Super Bowl last year and came within a hair's breadth of knocking the Packers out of the playoffs in Lambeau.
There were 0-7 without Romo.
The Patriots do not have the most physically gifted QB in the history of the League, but succeed by emphasizing his strengths and minimizing his weaknesses. They throw an entire offense of short passes at you and surprise the Defense by going medium to Gronk or LaFell.
The entire Packer offense is predicated on a Pro Bowl QB with an all world arm making it go. He is not having a great mid-year, he is getting beaten up WAY too much. And much of that is because his receivers can no longer make the old offense work (the one's that are healthy).
The re-jiggering of the Offense will begin versus the Lions this week.
We have seen this play before. Definitely in '09 and again, to a lesser extent, in 10.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
The timing of their issues is the part that is different. Last year they struggled early and we often used (09/10/12) to have a lot of discussion 'round these parts during the first 8 games about the offense struggling. Usually it seemed to be mostly the line and the lack of a run game getting Rodgers beat up. This year, more than others, it seems to be issues with the WR group.
Then there was 2011, where they surged out of the gate and started petering out by the end of the year. In 2013, Rodgers was injured and they re-routed their offense through Lacy.
Assuming they overcome their problems through re-jiggering or personnel (Abby/Monty), they probably are due for a bounce during the last quarter of the season. M3 has made references before to how he builds his strategy throughout the season so they are peaking going into the playoffs. We'll see if that holds out here.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
...and much of that is on Rodgers, himself. McGinn has pointed game after game just how much time Rodgers has had on some plays, yet has still taken sacks. This week it was 7.4 seconds on a play. Yes, that is on the receivers for not getting open, but it is also on Rodgers, himself. He needs to: 1. find the best option and throw; 2. throw the ball away; or 3. get whatever few yards he can with his legs and be done with it. Pushing it to the point of being sacked does no one any good.
Rodgers shows an indecisiveness that I have not seen from him in the past. Maybe its determination to not give up on a play. Whatever it is, it leads to sacks and wear and tear on his body, and probably on his o-line as well. In spite of the runs he has had, he seems less willing to run than in the past. That's OK, but don't push to the point of getting a late term sack, which often is the most physical type coming from an unexpected angle.
Yep, he's making some poor decisions. He's gun shy too - not like in 2010. Given how some of his passes look, I think he's gun shy because, for whatever reason, his accuracy is off and he knows it. Lack of confidence in receivers and his arm both gives you the outcome you're seeing. Not sure about lack of confidence in running, but agree that he need to take what they're giving him - a 1 yard run and slide is better than a sack.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
The accuracy thing is perplexing. His scrambles seem less controlled than in the past. While he has always made unconventional, off balance and awkward throws with accuracy, I was accustomed to see him scramble out of trouble, then "drift" when he threw. Now he extends plays in a herky-jerky fashions, and seems totally unprepared to throw much of the time. BUT, even when he is ready to throw, and throws on his initial drop back, his usually accuracy is not always there.
I think Stubby is holding out until after the Lions game to make any final stretch adjustments. But he is certainly counting on getting back Abby and Monty and Q. The real issue is whether the line can hold up.
I wonder who made the decisions on those long run drives in the second half to switch to passes? Packers win with two FGs.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
It can't all be on the receivers, and it can't all be on the QB. This offense is stale, and defenses have discovered how to blanket the receivers with man coverage. A rescheme would be greatly needed if this team plans to make a push. The receivers and the QB do need to get on the same page so that the "go" routes can be used to beat the "man" defense.
His movement in the pocket looks more like 2009 than anytime since. Its not always purposeful. Normally, he is maneuvering to find space to throw OR occasionally buy time. Now its almost always to buy time which doesn't always work out. I think the five man rushes have hurt his running (shoulder injury doesn't help either).
He has always held the ball too long and taken sacks when a throw might have been more advised, that isn't new. I do think the pass pro has ticked up from the back to back to back debacles where he was getting hit 20 times a game. Though the recent opponents weren't the Broncos or Panthers. I don't think his approach has changed this year. It might NEED to, but of all the fixes, I find this one least likely because he has never played that way in a sustained manner. We have seen game plans call for shorter stuff, but not sustained over multiple games.
This offense really misses big plays and has not found a way to manufacture them at previous rates. Nelson could take some of those QB scrambles and head deep. That would open up a lot of room.
I think the injury/inaccuracy/bad footwork makes him trust his receivers less, partially because he is less trustworthy. But something has to close the loop. It might be most simple to decide on what Adams can do and run that to death until opponents react. However even that is dangerous, as he is big enough that a slant shouldn't have been a problem.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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