Putting aside championships, Warren Moon and Dan Marino are the best pure QBs I've ever seen. Brady, Starr, Montana, Graham I would put at the top of the 'winners' category - guys who knew how to win games. Manning is in the technician class with Rodgers and Brees. Favre is in the gunslinger/playmaker/tough guy category with Steve Young, Ben Worthlessburger and yes, that little scrambling f-er from Minnesota.
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"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Marino was something, especially when you consider that he had no legs and could barely move in the pocket, let alone run or scramble out of trouble. Most years he had negative rushing yards. Magical arm, though. Just a blur when he threw. He would look like he was in trouble in the pocket, and all of a sudden the ball was on its way downfield, yet you barely saw him cock and throw, When he set the records, they were well beyond his contemporaries.Originally Posted by mraynrand
Marino is the only QB from the 80s that has numbers that are comparable to what QBs are doing today
Yup, like Jim Brown was with the rushing record for a long time, even somewhat is still today, 50 years after he retired.
Rushing is still pretty close throughout the years. The running game was a huge part of the offense back in the day. The difference is many teams used both the fullback and halfback when rushing the ball back in the day. Jim Brown was a one man wrecking crew which was rare back then and which makes his stats hold up to today's one back attack.
Somewhat, but not entirely. Early in his career, Jim Brown played with future HOFer Bobby Mitchell, who was a running back with Cleveland. After Mitchell was traded, Brown played with Ernie Green. Both Mitchell and Green would get 500 yards/year running the ball, not much behind the likes of Hornung, Moore or Pitts for the Packers.
Brown often lead the league in carries, but that was a result of his greatness, not the cause of it.
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Otto Graham 6-1 195lbs
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Otto Graham played in a different era than almost anyone else on this list. When he started playing for the Browns they weren't even in the NFL, they were in the AAFC. Graham led the Browns to 4 AAFC championships, and then when the Browns moved to the NFL he won 3 more NFL Championships. Considering he only played 10 years of football 7 championships is quite the accomplishment. Graham was a 5 time Pro Bowler.
Years Played: 10
Games Started: 126
Regular Season Record: 57-13-1
Playoff Record: 9-3
Completion %: 55.8
Yards per Attempt: 9
Yards per Completion: 16.1
Yards per Game: 187
TD to INT ratio:174-135
QB rating: 86.6
4th Quarter Comebacks:
Game Winning Drives:
Rushing Yards: 882
Yards per Carry: 2.2
Rushing TDs: 44
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