Official Senior Bowl Thread

**Maxie the Taxi** · 02-01-2016, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by run pMc

Do you think NFL OC's will figure out how to scheme against the quick ILB's like Telvin Smith, Deone Buchannon and Thomas Davis? Seems like running at them with a lead block from a FB or G would give them trouble. I have to think this is a fad that will get outschemed...but I could be wrong. Telvin has been pretty good for 2 seasons with the Jags.

Sure the hybrid LB's will be schemed against by the OC's. But then the DC's will scheme against the OC's and so it goes. LOL

The things I don't see as a fad are big/fast TE's, RB's who are just as much pass catchers as they are runners and speedy running QB's like Wilson and Bridgewater. To me, that means you need speed on the defensive side of the ball to counter them. Now, you might find a big, traditional MLB with SS speed (Urlacher 6'4" 258) but two things: 1) Urlachers are few and far between; and 2) faster, traditional ILB's (Shazier 6'1" 230, Mosley 6'2" 235, Kendricks 6'0" 232) are in all reality not much bigger than a SS/hybrid LB (Smith 6'3" 223, Bucannon 6'1" 210). The guys in the draft this year who could be considered hybrid ILB's are Miles Killebrew 6'1" 219, Jeremy Cash 6'0" 212, Darian Thompson 6'1" 215).

I think what these guys lack in weight they make up for in speed, attitude, tackling ability and coverage skills.

**woodbuck27** · 02-01-2016, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi

Sure the hybrid LB's will be schemed against by the OC's. But then the DC's will scheme against the OC's and so it goes. LOL

The things I don't see as a fad are big/fast TE's, RB's who are just as much pass catchers as they are runners and speedy running QB's like Wilson and Bridgewater. To me, that means you need speed on the defensive side of the ball to counter them. Now, you might find a big, traditional MLB with SS speed (Urlacher 6'4" 258) but two things: 1) Urlachers are few and far between; and 2) faster, traditional ILB's (Shazier 6'1" 230, Mosley 6'2" 235, Kendricks 6'0" 232) are in all reality not much bigger than a SS/hybrid LB (Smith 6'3" 223, Bucannon 6'1" 210). The guys in the draft this year who could be considered hybrid ILB's are Miles Killebrew 6'1" 219, Jeremy Cash 6'0" 212, Darian Thompson 6'1" 215).

I think what these guys lack in weight they make up for in speed, attitude, tackling ability and coverage skills.

In Brackets their DraftTec 300 Ranking:

The guys in the draft this year who could be considered hybrid ILB's are (108) Miles Killebrew 6'1" 219, (29) Jeremy Cash 6'0" 212 and (50) Darian Thompson 6'1" 215).

**HarveyWallbangers** · 02-21-2016, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi

I'd love to see the Packers draft RB Kenneth Dixon and WR Sterling Shephard. However, if they shine at the Senior Bowl, we probably won't have a chance at them. The cream rises quickly to the top after these bowl games and the Combine.

I'm through QBs and RBs (pre-combine) and getting through WRs. I like Dixon. Might lack a little speed, so he might be ranked right about where he should be. Good all around RB. Of course, I was somebody who liked Bishop Sankey more than Tre Mason because of his all around skills. RBs are really hard to judge.

I like Shepard. I think he's ranked a little low in most rankings.

**Fritz** · 02-22-2016, 07:01 AM

You know, the last several years I've become less interested in the draft, mostly because I realize I don't know shit about scouting. So I read a bit, but just wait to see what Ted does on draft day.

**mraynrand** · 02-22-2016, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Fritz

You know, the last several years I've become less interested in the draft, mostly because I realize I don't know shit about scouting. So I read a bit, but just wait to see what Ted does on draft day.

Same here, except add in that for the past two drafts, the Steelers picked the guys I wanted in round 1, and all the players I liked got picked by someone else. I figure, what's the point of getting excited about a player that's going to another team? Plus, I barely follow college ball - I already look stupid enough commenting on crap I know nothing about - why make it worse? Plus, who has time for all those videos?

P.S. Ezekiel Elliott will be an NFL stud. You heard it here last.

**Patler** · 02-22-2016, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Fritz

You know, the last several years I've become less interested in the draft, mostly because I realize I don't know shit about scouting. So I read a bit, but just wait to see what Ted does on draft day.

That is how I have been for the last 25 years, except for the occasional year when the Packers have a high draft pick. Not much point in getting my hopes set on any guy in particular when 25 teams or so will have their pick before the Packers. I do enjoy researching the Packers picks after I know who they are, to get a feel for how they might contribute.

**Cheesehead Craig** · 02-22-2016, 08:12 AM

Same here on the draft. I don't watch nearly enough college football. But this is a symptom of my lessening interest in football overall.

**mraynrand** · 02-22-2016, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig

Same here on the draft. I don't watch nearly enough college football. But this is a symptom of my lessening interest in football overall.

I believe you.

**Deputy Nutz** · 02-22-2016, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Fritz

You know, the last several years I've become less interested in the draft, mostly because I realize I don't know shit about scouting. So I read a bit, but just wait to see what Ted does on draft day.

I used to love the draft when all you could get your hands on were the Draft magazines. The internet really did a number on those. They were like my bible, for two months I would take those every where with me. I did the same with fantasy baseball.

When I lost my passion for the Packers in 2008, I sort of lost my passion for the draft. What is a real kick in the nuts, as I sat around and played make believe a former high school teammate of mine became a NFL scout and is now with the Tampa Bay Bucs,

http://www.buccaneers.com/news/artic...5-8400256fecdd

**mraynrand** · 02-22-2016, 08:28 AM