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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    I wonder what AR will bring in the trade market in the 2019 off season?

    You mean after the 2017 season. This is Hundley's second year; they'll need to make a decision after two more seasons, I think. I say if he's all that and a bag of doughnuts, Ted should trade AR after 2017, getting a bunch of draft picks, and retiring and turning it all over to the new GM, who would then have the flexibility to build the team as he likes and remain a SB competitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    You mean after the 2017 season. This is Hundley's second year; they'll need to make a decision after two more seasons, I think. I say if he's all that and a bag of doughnuts, Ted should trade AR after 2017, getting a bunch of draft picks, and retiring and turning it all over to the new GM, who would then have the flexibility to build the team as he likes and remain a SB competitor.
    Imagine being the GM that traded 2 HOF QBs late in their career? Even if the first one was the right decision, you'd have to be pretty damned confident in your abilities to hope that lightning would strike twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    You mean after the 2017 season. This is Hundley's second year; they'll need to make a decision after two more seasons, I think. I say if he's all that and a bag of doughnuts, Ted should trade AR after 2017, getting a bunch of draft picks, and retiring and turning it all over to the new GM, who would then have the flexibility to build the team as he likes and remain a SB competitor.
    Off season precedes the season, so the 2019 off season follows the 2018 season, before the 2019 season. 2018 will have been Hundley's last contract year. Renew Hundley, trade AR, play for another 12 years.

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    I see the cart, but I think we left the horse way way way behind...
    I would love for Hundley to be that caliber of player, however I think I will wait and see a bit longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upnorth View Post
    I see the cart, but I think we left the horse way way way behind...
    I would love for Hundley to be that caliber of player, however I think I will wait and see a bit longer.
    You mean wait until he throws an NFL pass? What kind of fan(atic!) are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upnorth View Post
    I see the cart, but I think we left the horse way way way behind...
    I would love for Hundley to be that caliber of player, however I think I will wait and see a bit longer.
    It's just a plan, of course.
    But, that's the point, three more years before any decisions have to be made. At some point during 2016-2018 Rodgers will go on the shelf for a few weeks, being a china doll and all. Then we will see what Hundley really has. In the mean time, we will dream and plan based on semi-meaningless preseason performances.

    But, all kidding aside, there could be a big decision for GB after the 2018 season. Do you stick with a 35 year old AR at whatever stage he is at, for however many more years he decides to play from then forward? Or, do you go with a 26 year old Brett Hundley who might give you another 10-15 years? Impossible to predict right now

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    JS Comments ‏@JSComments 7h7 hours ago
    Eddie.. the key is your Lungs! run Wind Sprints...over and over again.. forget all these experts ..with new ways to train..wind sprints work

    I think Woodbuck has taken up a personal trainer career.
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    Packers training camp schedule:

    July 25: Players report.

    July 26: 8:15 a.m.

    July 27: 8:15 a.m.

    July 28: 8:15 a.m.

    July 29: No practice

    July 30: 8:15 a.m.

    July 31: Family Night, 6:25 p.m., Lambeau Field

    Aug. 1: 6:15 p.m.

    Aug. 2: No practice

    Aug. 3: 6:15 p.m.

    Aug. 4: 6:15 p.m.

    Aug. 5: No practice

    Aug. 6: No public practice

    Aug. 7: vs. Indianapolis Colts, 7 p.m., Canton, Ohio (Hall of Fame Game)

    Aug. 8: No practice

    Aug. 9: 6:15 p.m.

    Aug. 10: 11:45 a.m.

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    Aug. 12: vs. Cleveland Browns, 7 p.m.

    Aug. 13: No practice

    Aug. 14: 12:15 p.m.

    Aug. 15: 11:45 a.m.

    Aug. 16: No practice

    Aug. 17: No public practice

    Aug. 18: vs. Oakland Raiders, 7 p.m.

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    Aug. 21: No practice

    Aug. 22: 12:15 p.m.

    Aug. 23: 11:45 a.m.

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    Aug. 26: at San Francisco 49ers, 9 p.m.

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    Aug. 28: No practice

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    Aug. 30: 11:45 a.m.

    Aug. 31: No public practice

    Sept. 1: at Kansas City Chiefs, 7 p.m.

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    Preview of the upcoming season now that Cleveland has won a Championship:


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    Aaron Nagler ‏@AaronNagler 2h2 hours ago
    From @BuckyBrooks. Wonder if the personnel guy is John Dorsey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Aaron Nagler ‏@AaronNagler 2h2 hours ago
    From @BuckyBrooks. Wonder if the personnel guy is John Dorsey...

    That is pretty uninspiring since every player is part of an offensive or defensive system.

    Now if the "veteran AFC West personnel man" said Clay would be a JAG if he was on any other team that would be something to discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    That is pretty uninspiring since every player is part of an offensive or defensive system.
    lol...exactly. i've ALWAYS hated the "system" label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Aaron Nagler ‏@AaronNagler 2h2 hours ago
    From @BuckyBrooks. Wonder if the personnel guy is John Dorsey...

    I've always thought Clay was overrated. I think it was McGinn that said he was a top 5 player in the league after we won the SB and I called bullshit. Cameron Wake is better than Clay and always has been. That being said Clay is a bonafide stud and perennial pro bowler. I personally like him better at ILB because he is an all around talent while being good not great from the edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I've always thought Clay was overrated. I think it was McGinn that said he was a top 5 player in the league after we won the SB and I called bullshit. Cameron Wake is better than Clay and always has been. That being said Clay is a bonafide stud and perennial pro bowler. I personally like him better at ILB because he is an all around talent while being good not great from the edge.
    Depends on what you're looking at. CMIII may not be as dominant pass rusher as Wake or Miller, but he can do things that Wake and Miller can't even come close to doing. He becomes useless when he lines up on the outside, rushes the passer every down and gets double teamed regularly. But so are 99% of the LBs in the league. Matthews is not a one-dimension animal and is most effective when allowed to move around and be unpredictable. Remember the game-saving pick against Cutler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I've always thought Clay was overrated. I think it was McGinn that said he was a top 5 player in the league after we won the SB and I called bullshit. Cameron Wake is better than Clay and always has been. That being said Clay is a bonafide stud and perennial pro bowler. I personally like him better at ILB because he is an all around talent while being good not great from the edge.
    Wait, did McGinn mean LB or player? Two different animals, just as OLB and DE are two different animals.

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    Would the guy prefer that Matthews be a "superstar" (whatever that means) but not function well within Capers' system?

    For a few of the years when Matthews was the flashiest, perhaps exhibiting his "superstar" side, the defense was not all that good, and many talked about Matthews taking himself out of plays with his aggressive style. The last few years, with Matthews in a different position and looking less flashy, the defense has improved. I'll take the improved defense with Matthews in it somewhere, and not worry about if he is a superstar or the product of Capers' system.

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    I think anyone can see that Clay is clearly a special athlete. He is very fast and seems to accelerate very quickly.

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    That's a silly comment IMO. The last two seasons he's been playing a lot of ILB. OLB is his natural position...that doesn't make him a "system" guy. That's like putting Guion at OLB and saying that he's a system guy as a DL.

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    I think it would be fair if you kept the criticism to his play at OLB the two and a half years prior to his move inside.

    He is not a dominating pass rusher when confined to the end. He doesn't dominate tackles like he seemed he was going to early. But he is still an explosive player with fantastic speed and quickness, good in coverage and excellent in pass rush from a variety of positions.

    He's not Von Miller. But he also can do things Von Miller cannot hope to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    He's not Von Miller. But he also can do things Von Miller cannot hope to do.
    Like sign a contract.
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