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    Quote Originally Posted by pittstang5 View Post
    This Draft has been really weird. So many guys I thought were 2nd rounders are going tonight.
    At least 3 so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Hmmm...
    Can't win them all.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    Eric Thompson ‏@eric_j_thompson 49s49 seconds ago
    BREAKING: Thomas Dimitroff has a torn labrum. Result of reaching for that Keanu Neal pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    Great, isn't it?
    Yep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittstang5 View Post
    This Draft has been really weird. So many guys I thought were 2nd rounders are going tonight.
    a guy on the radio today said there are 5-6 first tier guys, 5-6 second tier guys and about 45 third tier guys. so a lot of guys people think are going in the first will go in the second and the other way

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    1. RYAN KELLY | Alabama 6040|311 lbs|5SR West Chester, Ohio (Lakota West) 5/30/1993 (age 22) #70
    YEAR (GP/GS) GRADE 1st-2nd Round 2011: Redshirted MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 5/8 | Hand: 09 5/8 | Wingspan: 80 5/8 2012: (10/0) COMBINE 40-YD: 5.03 | 10-YD: 1.76 | 20-YD: 2.93 | BP: 26 | VJ: 30 | BJ: 08’07” | SS: 4.59 | 3C: 7.58 2013: (9/9) 8 OC PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only) 2014: (12/12) 12 OC 2015: (15/15) 15 OC Total: (46/36) 36 OC

    BACKGROUND: A three-star offensive center recruit out of high school, Kelly committed to Alabama over offers from Florida, Florida State and Michigan. After redshirting in 2011, he came off the bench as a true freshman and played in 10 games in 2012. Kelly took over the starting center duties as a sophomore in 2013, starting nine games (missed four games due to injury). He started 12 games as a junior in 2014, missing two games due to injury. Kelly started all 15 games as a senior in 2015, earning consensus All-America and First Team All-SEC honors. He also won the Rimington Trophy (nation’s top center) and the Jacobs Blocking Trophy (SEC’s top lineman). Kelly received an invitation to the 2016 Senior Bowl, but declined.

    STRENGTHS: Quick snap-and-step, sitting in his stance to anchor, absorb contact and push back…proper bend below the waist to maintain leverage and get underneath defenders…extends well to keep defenders from his frame and works hard to gain body position…patience in space to attack the second level…moves well laterally to pull and work around bodies… noticeably stronger as a senior…naturally instinctive to anticipate pre-snap and on the move…highly intelligent, both on and off the field – named the 2015 SEC Scholar-Athlete of the Year…made all the calls on the Alabama offensive line, getting everyone lined up and communicating well…very detailed with a tough demeanor, battling through the whistle…accountable, no-nonsense leader and voted a team captain in 2015 – calls that his most valued honor…seasoned veteran with 36 starts under his belt in the SEC.

    WEAKNESSES: Average-at-best size, length and growth potential – needs to continue and develop his power…quick movements based more on awareness rather than explosive traits…overeager at times and needs to stay off the ground, lunging, dropping his eyes and falling off his target…overaggressive at the second level, leading to his pads rising or overrunning linebackers…needs to improve his timing in space to land blocks on designed screens…durability hasn’t been a strength, missing four games in Sept. 2013 (stretched MCL), two games in Oct. 2014 (right knee sprain) and most of the Texas A&M contest this past season due to a concussion (Oct. 2015).

    SUMMARY: A three-year starter, Kelly took over the pivot duties at Alabama after Barrett Jones graduated and developed into one of the best centers in the country, earning the Rimington Award and Jacobs Blocking Trophy in 2015 – described as the “heart and soul” of the offense by Heisman-winning running back Derrick Henry. He plays with more hustle than physical talent, but has a strong understanding of how to use positional skill and his smarts to complete the mission. Although he rarely moves bodies in the run game, Kelly engages well on combo blocks and gains position, using his awareness to be a model of consistency. He is the ultimate lunch pail worker with the competitive grit and IQ that translates well to the pro game – scheme-versatile, immediate starter and Pro Bowl potential.

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    http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2016/C/Ryan-Kelly

    Ryan Kelly
    School: Alabama
    Position: C

    Positive: Three-year starter awarded All-America and all-Conference honors last year as well as being named Rimington Trophy Award winner as the nation's top center. Tough, intelligent center who stands out in all areas of the position. Bends his knees, plays with excellent pad level and a terrific technician. Explosive at the point, stays square and keeps his feet and hands active throughout the play. Anchors in pass protection, effective on the 2nd level and nicely redirects to defenders. Seals opponents from the play and flashes power with the ability to move bigger linemen from the action. Displays outstanding vision and hits multiple defenders off a single snap.

    Negative: Ducks his head on occasion. Has never been naturally bulky. Must improve his blocking angles.

    Analysis: Kelly has been a consistent performer for Alabama but at the same time displayed progress in all areas of his game. He has starting potential in the NFL for a variety of systems and comes with a terrific amount of upside.

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    A Center?!

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    what happens if miles jack and ragland drop to us. ragland is the safe pick but jack is the possible stud

    and you never know when any players career is gonna end to add on to what espn was saying

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    3rd hand source - Bills to take Lawson

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    what happens if miles jack and ragland drop to us. ragland is the safe pick but jack is the possible stud

    and you never know when any players career is gonna end to add on to what espn was saying
    McGinn thinks TT will take a DL from UCLA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    At least 3 so far.
    Yep...4 if you count Ryan Kelly as a 2nd rounder.

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    McGinn thinks TT will take a DL from UCLA.
    great


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    Bills D keeps getting better

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    3. SHAQ LAWSON | Clemson 6025|269 lbs|3JR Central, S.C. (Daniel) 6/17/1994 (age 21) #90
    YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF GRADE 1st Round 2012: Hargrave Military Academy MEASUREABLES Arm: 32 3/4 | Hand: 10 | Wingspan: 81 1/8 2013: (13/0) 35 10.0 4.0 0 COMBINE 40-YD: 4.70 | 10-YD: 1.63 | 20-YD: 2.75 | VJ: 33 | BJ: 10’00” | SS: 4.21 | 3C: 7.16 2014: (13/1) 44 11.0 3.5 1 PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only) 2015: (15/15) 60 25.5 12.5 1 Total: (41/16) 139 46.5 20.0 2

    BACKGROUND: A four-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Lawson wanted to move away from home to play football and was ready to enroll at Tennessee, but after his father was killed in a car accident, he decided to stay close to home. Lawson committed to Clemson prior to his senior year, but he didn’t qualify academically, enrolling at Hargrave Military Academy for the 2012 season – also received recruiting attention for basketball. He joined the Tigers as a freshman in 2013 and played in all 13 games as a back-up, tallying 35 tackles, 10.0 tackles for loss and 4.0 sacks. Stuck behind Vic Beasley and Corey Crawford on the depth chart, Lawson again came off the bench again in 2014 as a sophomore, recording 44 tackles, 11.0 tackles for loss and 3.5 sacks. He became a starter in 2015 as a junior and was runner-up for ACC Defensive Player of the Year with a NCAA-best 25.5 tackles for loss, adding 60 tackles and 12.5 sacks to earn First Team All-ACC and AllAmerica honors. Lawson decided to skip his senior season to enter the 2016 NFL Draft.

    STRENGTHS: Proportionate upper and lower body thickness…quick initial step with the lateral agility and knee bend to rush with low pad level…stays coordinated in his rush sequence, using a variety of spin and power arm moves to beat blocks…resets his vision well on the move to find the ballcarrier, coming to balance to make stops in small spaces…active, heavy hands to stack the edge, fight off blockers’ jabs and create push with his upper body…disciplined vs. the run, holding the edge and leveraging blocks with an iron shoulder and body flexibility…heavy striker and drives through his hips, bringing his legs with him – strong hands/wrists to finish tackles…experienced dropping in space and covering running backs out of the backfield…takes well to coaching and praised for his football intelligence…has worked hard on his diet and work habits to stay at peak conditioning…low maintenance individual with the positive attitude and competitive hunger to hone his craft – “one of the easiest guys I’ve ever coached,” according to Tigers head coach Dabo Swinney…consensus All-American 2015 season, leading the nation in tackles for loss (25.5) and finishing his career with 46.5 tackles for loss.

    WEAKNESSES: Only average height and length for the position…not a twitchy or naturally explosive athlete to win the corner on burst alone…needs to quicken his recoil and get his hands back to better halt runners in his gap…while balanced and agile to drop and move in reverse, he lacks the range and redirection traits to consistently cover in space…has a few late hit penalties on his resume that he needs to learn from…minor durability concerns with a history of sore shoulders, wearing a heavy brace on his right shoulder most of his junior year…only one season of starting experience…suffered a sprained MCL in his left knee (Dec. 2015) and played through the injury in the National Championship Game.

    SUMMARY: A one-year starter, Lawson followed the same path from D.W. Daniel High School to Clemson as DeAndre Hopkins and several other NFL players, but his path included a year at military school (academics) and two years as a reserve before getting his chance to shine as a starter in 2015 – recorded double-digit tackles for loss all three of his seasons for the Tigers. Despite losing eight defensive starters in 2015, Clemson’s defense ranked top-10 nationally and Lawson was a substantial reason for that, leading the nation in tackles for loss (25.5). He is an intelligent and powerful edge defender with the lower body athleticism and flexibility to be equally dominant against the run and the pass. Lawson isn’t a long-armed, twitchy athlete, but his efficient pass rush process and ball awareness allow him to be productive – top-20 prospect and NFL starter as a rookie, best-suited in a 4-3 base scheme.

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    thats the 3 teams that needed LB's jets could take one

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    http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2016/DE/Shaq-Lawson

    Shaq Lawson
    School: Clemson
    Position: DE

    Positive: Three-year starter awarded All-America and all-Conference honors last season after 60 tackles, 25.5 tackles for loss and 12.5 sacks. Terrific pass rusher with size limitations. Athletic, breaks down well and fluid moving in every direction. Easily collapses down the line of scrimmage defending the run, uses his hands to protect himself and plays with excellent balance. Possesses a quick change of direction, easily alters his angle of attack and can bend off the edge. Plays disciplined, stay-at-home football and gives effort defending the run or rushing the passer. Displays a variety of moves getting off blocks, sacrifices his body to make plays and competes.

    Negative: Struggles getting off blocks and engulfed by larger linemen. Lacks bulk and will be turned off the line by opponents.
    Analysis: Lawson was very effective making plays behind the line scrimmage and at the same time displays good instincts and head for the game. He's a scheme specific defender who could flourish as a one gap defensive end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    what happens if miles jack and ragland drop to us. ragland is the safe pick but jack is the possible stud

    and you never know when any players career is gonna end to add on to what espn was saying

    we take a OL; that would be a classic TT pick

    Everybody salivating over LB's and DL on the board. Ted takes a OL for insurance for our losses next year.
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    we take a OL; that would be a classic TT pick

    Everybody salivating over LB's and DL on the board. Ted takes a OL for insurance for our losses next year.
    Or insurance for Bulaga's next injury.

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