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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    Who is more frustrated this year and last, you or me? We should have a poll......
    my stress level is already sky high, i should probably be skipping the draft all together

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    2. DeFOREST BUCKNER | Oregon 6070|291 lbs|4SR Waianae, Hawaii (Punahou) 3/17/1992 (age 24) #44
    YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF GRADE 1st Round 2012: (13/2) 29 2.5 1.0 0 MEASUREABLES Arm: 34 3/8 | Hand: 11 3/4 | Wingspan: 79 3/4 2013: (13/8) 39 3.5 2.5 1 COMBINE 40-YD: 5.05 | 10-YD: 1.77 | 20-YD: 2.96 | VJ: 32 | BJ: 09’08” | SS: 4.47 | 3C: 7.51 2014: (15/15) 81 13.0 4.0 1 PRO DAY BP: 21 2015: (13/13) 83 17.0 10.5 0 Total: (54/38) 232 36.0 17.0 2

    BACKGROUND: A four-star defensive end recruit out of high school, DeForest “DeFo” Buckner narrowed his college choice to Oregon, UCLA and Cal, choosing the Ducks – also a four-year letterwinner in basketball. He saw playing time as a true freshman in 2012 (two starts) with 29 tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss and 1.0 sack, earning the team’s top award for a first-year player. Buckner saw added playing in 2013, starting the final eight games and recording 39 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss and 2.5 sacks. He started all 15 games in 2014 as a junior and led Oregon with 13.0 tackles for loss, adding 81 tackles and 4.0 sacks to earn Second Team All-Pac 12 honors. Buckner passed on the NFL to return for his senior season and had his most productive season (13 starts), recording a team-best 17.0 tackles for loss and 10.5 sacks and finishing second with 83 tackles to earn Oregon Defensive MVP (voted on by his teammates) and the Pac-12’s Morris Trophy (voted on by opposing Pac-12 offensive linemen). He also earned First Team All-Pac 12 honors and was named the Pat Tillman Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year (second Duck to win the award, joining Haloti Ngata in 2005). Buckner received an invitation to the 2016 Senior Bowl, but chose not to accept.

    STRENGTHS: Looks the part with a tall, long frame and growth potential to add bulk…massive wingspan and uses his length to unglue himself from blocks or create spacing at the point of attack, locking out, setting the edge and preventing angle blocks…quickly stacks and sheds, using pop in his hands to work off contact…fluid lower body and athletic footwork to move laterally and break down in tight spaces…plays low for a man his size with good bend, making it tough for blockers to attack his chest…good chase skills and hustle to catch ballcarriers in pursuit…uses his upper body and initial momentum to generate push off the snap…rarely met by single blocks, attracting double-teams or chips…uses his length to swallow ballcarriers as a tackler and drive them backwards…long-limbed to obstruct passing lanes (10 career passes defended)…quiet, reserved personality off the field, but warrior-mentality on the field, giving full-go whenever he steps on the field – aggressive competitor…versatile experience, lining up inside and outside in Oregon’s multiple fronts – also saw action on special teams coverages…durable starting experience with 38 career starts, including the last 36 straight.

    WEAKNESSES: Leverage can be an issue at times due to his height…struggles to recoil and reset himself after his initial move stalls…still learning how to set up his pass rush sequence and counter moves…only average snap anticipation…needs to know his limitations as a pass rusher and not sacrifice the edge…still learning how to use his hands and consistently convert speed to power – more of a reactor as a pass rusher…inconsistent tackler on the move, losing balance in space and not timing his hits…want to see more of a killer instinct on each snap…minor durability concerns – sprained right wrist that required a soft cast (Nov. 2015).

    SUMMARY: A three-year starter, Buckner played primarily as a defensive end in Oregon’s 3-4 base, lining up as the four-, five- or six-technique, but also saw snaps inside in the A-gap or at nose tackle – fits any defensive scheme and offers versatility inside and outside. He plays with explosive movements and terrific body control for his size, flashing heavy hands and initial power to be a disruptive force, although he’s still learning how to use his hands and string together rush moves. Buckner showed steady improvement at Oregon and became more of a consistent playmaker as a senior – Stanford head coach David Shaw described Buckner best when he said: “If you’re building a defensive lineman, that’s what you build.” He should get even better with NFL coaching and has potential to be a long-term pro starter, projecting better than his former teammate Arik Armstead (17th overall pick to the 49ers in the 2015 NFL Draft) – scheme-versatile to play multiple positions in both even and odd fronts, but his best position is at five-technique in a 3-4 base.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    my stress level is already sky high, i should probably be skipping the draft all together
    I'm strongly considering it myself.

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    Browns trade down. It's like they know what they're doing. Or something.

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    Titans trade up with Browns....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    I would to, but I think he's the only QB in this draft that I would.
    Agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by esoxx View Post
    Browns trade down. It's like they know what they're doing. Or something.

    Not the worst move....

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    Quote Originally Posted by esoxx View Post
    Browns trade down. It's like they know what they're doing. Or something.
    They're going to have to make a pick some time.
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    Damn, Conklin, I liked him.

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    Smart pick by TN
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2016/T/Jack-Conklin

    Jack Conklin
    School: Michigan State
    Position: T

    Positive: Three-year starter who walked onto the Michigan State football team then went on to win All-America and all-Conference honors the past 2 seasons. Efficient, well sized blocker best on the strong side. Patient, stays square and keeps defenders in front of him. Displays terrific blocking intelligence, sees the field and works well with linemates. Technically sound, makes outstanding use of angles and for the most part blocks with proper pad level. Effectively uses his hands to knock pass rushers from their angle of attack, uses all his assets to their maximum and flashes power as a run blocker.

    Negative: Lacks classic footwork off the edge. Marginally effective blocking in motion. Gets beaten around the edge by speed rushers.

    Analysis: Conklin is a smart, tough offensive tackle prospect with terrific run blocking power and enough skill to stop opponents as a pass rusher. He lacks great athleticism and upside but can start at the next level and have a long career.

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    3. JACK CONKLIN | Michigan State 6056|308 lbs|4JR Plainwell, Mich. (Plainwell) 8/17/1994 (age 21) #74
    YEAR (GP/GS) GRADE 1st-2nd Round 2012: Redshirted MEASUREABLES Arm: 35 | Hand: 10 3/8 | Wingspan: 83 1/4 2013: (14/13) 10 LT, 3 RT COMBINE 40-YD: 5.00 | 10-YD: 1.76 | 20-YD: 2.92 | BP: 25 | VJ: 30 | BJ: 08’07” | SS: 4.57 | 3C: 7.63 2014: (13/13) 13 LT PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only) 2015: (12/12) 12 LT Total: (39/38) 35 LT, 3 RT

    BACKGROUND: A no-star offensive line recruit out of high school, Conklin was under-recruited and his only offer was to Division-II Wayne State. He planned to play the 2012 season at Fork Union Military Academy until Michigan State entered the picture, inviting him to walk on with the promise that he would go on scholarship in the spring of 2013. After redshirting in 2012, Conklin started the first three games at right tackle before moving to left tackle the rest of the season, earning Freshman All-America honors. He started all 13 games at left tackle as a sophomore in 2014, earning Second Team All-Big Ten honors. Conklin missed two games in 2015 as a junior, starting 12 games at left tackle and earning First Team All-Big Ten and All-America honors. He decided to skip his senior season to enter the 2016 NFL Draft.

    STRENGTHS: Well-built with excellent core strength and center of gravity to stay balanced through contact…wide base with lower body power to control the point of attack…strong upper body and hands to jolt and steer defenders as a run blocker…works hard to keep spacing with his reach…controlled in space and picks up edge speed, sinking his hips to anchor…rarely plays in reverse…smart and instinctive, understanding protections and using his eyes to pick up extra pressures – natural sense of his surroundings…feisty and always looking for someone to block, displaying a dependable playing temperament…accomplished three year starter with experience on both sides of the line of scrimmage (38 career starts)…athletic bloodlines – father (Darren, also Jack’s high school head coach) was a walk-on offensive tackle at Michigan (1986); mother (Jennifer) was a swimmer at Michigan; grandfather (Ron Jackson) was a basketball star at Western Michigan, but chose pro baseball, playing seven seasons in the MLB (1954-60).

    WEAKNESSES: Adequate length, but doesn’t play like it, allowing rushers into his body at times in an attempt to control them…not a light mover and slow to recover once rushers gain a step…tends to get his feet tied up in his outside kickslide, lunging and falling off balance…will open up prematurely and struggle in space…not a rangy player and too often late to climb to the second level…technique tends to break down vs. speed…medical reports are important – suffered a left knee sprain (Sept. 2015) and missed two games.

    SUMMARY: A three-year starter, Conklin was a late bloomer and couldn’t garner any attention as a high school recruit, but worked his way to a scholarship at Michigan State and is now a legitimate first round prospect – would be the first Spartans’ offensive lineman drafted in the opening round since Tony Mandarich (1989). Conklin is powerful and quick-minded to read/react in a flash and dominate in tight spaces, but he doesn’t have the quick-twitch body control to consistently mirror in space. He has some athletic limitations and will struggle with edge speed at times, but no one is going through him due to his wide base and contact balance – always in a ready position and rarely seems surprised, which compensates for his lack of elite quickness in pass protection. Conklin is well-coached, physical and a natural competitor, which makes him NFL ready from day one – starting right tackle or guard as a rookie with upside to move to left tackle once he adjusts to the speed of the pro game.

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    Damn, Conklin, I liked him.
    Me too. Had him as a top 8 player in the draft.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    I liked Conklin okay, but not in the top 10 - wow!!!
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    Bears trade up I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    Not the worst move....
    Not at all. Appears they finally have a GM who understands the cupboard is bare and he needs to gather multiple young talent via the draft.

    Assuming he knows who to pick.

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    Bears traded up. Who do they want?
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    A lot of good tackles in this draft, including Decker from OSU. Would be surprised if he lasts beyond 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    Faux John Madden ‏@FauxJohnMadden 21s21 seconds ago
    With the 7th pick, the 49ers select Jim Harbaugh, Head Coach, Michigan
    LOL!
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