Everything you need to know about TT's Pick @ NO. 27 - DT Kenny Clark Fr. UCLA

[mraynrand]

Clark is listed at 6' 3" or 6' 2 1/2" depending on where you look, ... you're saying Harrell was 6' 5 1/2"??

yeah, I think so. At least 6'5" I thought Clark was 6'2"

Harrell always looked huge around the other linemen.

[wist43]

yeah, I think so. At least 6'5" I thought Clark was 6'2"

Harrell always looked huge around the other linemen.

Harrell was listed at 6'4, and Clark is listed at 6'3... 3-4=3?? The new math??

[yetisnowman]

Seems like a reach and a project. And I'm not sure his peak is anything special. We should be looking for players that can contribute and be effective right away. We also had an opportunity to draft the most talented d-lineman in the draft, and didn't because of character questions. Hope that doesn't come back and bite us.

[Patler]

Seems like a reach and a project. And I'm not sure his peak is anything special. We should be looking for players that can contribute and be effective right away. We also had an opportunity to draft the most talented d-lineman in the draft, and didn't because of character questions. Hope that doesn't come back and bite us.

I'm not sure how you can call it a reach when McGinn's ranking puts Clark as the #2 DT, behind only Reed and ahead of the likes of Robinson, Rankins, Billings, etc.

[yetisnowman]

I'm not sure how you can call it a reach when McGinn's ranking puts Clark as the #2 DT, behind only Reed and ahead of the likes of Robinson, Rankins, Billings, etc.

Well those are McGinn's rankings. It's just my opinion. I don't think he's a first round talent. Most scouts had several tackles ranked higher than Clark that were still on the board. Would love to be wrong.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Well those are McGinn's rankings. It's just my opinion. I don't think he's a first round talent. Most scouts had several tackles ranked higher than Clark that were still on the board. Would love to be wrong.

McGinn actually goes off what the scouts he has access to say (and his network of scouts probably extends further than any media folks). Bob doesn't do the evaluations himself. Most of the "scouts" you speak of aren't scouts that have an NFL job, and there's a lot of group think.

I think we were having this same converation last year regarding Damarious Randall.

[yetisnowman]

McGinn actually goes off what the scouts he has access to say (and his network of scouts probably extends further than any media folks). Bob doesn't do the evaluations himself. Most of the "scouts" you speak of aren't scouts that have an NFL job, and there's a lot of group think.

I think we were having this same converation last year regarding Damarious Randall.

Just as I'm sure were having similar conversations about Harrell, Sherrod, Datone, etc.....
Hope it works out, but it's fair to be skeptical.

[Patler]

I'm not sure how you can call it a reach when McGinn's ranking puts Clark as the #2 DT, behind only Reed and ahead of the likes of Robinson, Rankins, Billings, etc.

Well those are McGinn's rankings. It's just my opinion. I don't think he's a first round talent. Most scouts had several tackles ranked higher than Clark that were still on the board. Would love to be wrong.

McGinn actually goes off what the scouts he has access to say (and his network of scouts probably extends further than any media folks). Bob doesn't do the evaluations himself. Most of the "scouts" you speak of aren't scouts that have an NFL job, and there's a lot of group think.

What Harvey said.

I am not a fan of McGinn's own opinion pieces, but I have always respected what he does concerning the draft. It seems that over the years he as managed to gather enough dirt or something on actual team scouts that they are willing to give him rather detailed opinions, and he filters through their conflicting remarks to achieve a combined analysis that has earned him great respect in the media. ESPN and other places refer to his draft pieces quite regularly, and he has won many awards for having the most accurate first round predictions.

As much as I dislike the bulk of McGinn's work, he really shines for a couple weeks before the draft, when he is not using his own analysis but the combined works of an apparently large and quite competent network of individuals who scout the college players for a living.

[Fritz]

I am wishing they'd have traded back, maybe with Denver, and gotten that extra third that Seattle did. They still could've gotten a good defensive lineman at that spot.

But it's all just speculation. We can pronounce all we want, but nobody will really know for a couple years for sure.

[mraynrand]

I am wishing they'd have traded back, maybe with Denver, and gotten that extra third that Seattle did. They still could've gotten a good defensive lineman at that spot.

But it's all just speculation. We can pronounce all we want, but nobody will really know for a couple years for sure.

I think at least it shows that they didn't have him rated the same as the tackles taken by AZ or Carolina. IF they did, they probably trade back. But trades take two to tango - I assume Denver contacted the Packers, but maybe not.

What would have been funny is if Dallas had traded with GB before they knew the Broncos moved up.

[wist43]

We're desperate for DL help, so Clark will get on the field immediately... he'll be a servicable player, but given that Billings, Robinson, Butler, Dodd, and Ragland were all still there, it's an underwhelming pick.

I liked all of those guys better than Clark.

[Pugger]

We're desperate for DL help, so Clark will get on the field immediately... he'll be a servicable player, but given that Billings, Robinson, Butler, Dodd, and Ragland were all still there, it's an underwhelming pick.

I liked all of those guys better than Clark.

With his heart issue I can understand why Ragland wasn't taken in the first by anyone.

[woodbuck27]

We're desperate for DL help, so Clark will get on the field immediately... he'll be a servicable player, but given that Billings, Robinson, Butler, Dodd, and Ragland were all still there, it's an underwhelming pick.

I liked all of those guys better than Clark.

TT has a bag labeled ...... "Surprizes for Packer fans".

[pbmax]

[Fritz]

I wish we could know what calls Ted fielded about trading back - as I said elsewhere, I'm guessing the Broncos and/or Cowboys called GB about trading up to get Lynch. Probably one or both teams realized there was a bidding war, so they had to move up higher to get Lynch, leaving GB behind.

I guess we'll find out how good Clark is compared to all the guys Ted didn't pick instead, especially the defensive linemen. We'll see. And if Wist will list the 5-6 guys he likes better, we can see how that plays out in three or four years, too.

[pbmax]

Very nice writeup that covers about everything I have seen of Clark:

http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/nfl-dra...-clark-dl-ucla

[George Cumby]

Looks good and violent In his highlight reels.

[pbmax]

We'll have a better idea what Ted was thinking when we see him in camp getting reps. McGinn and every other Packer blogger had Clark as the need pick (or someone was leaking). And they ALL see him taking Raji's spot at NT.

From that perspective, you can see the Packers having him as their highest ranked at a position of need.

Nutz and some other write ups see him as more versatile, though he is not as tall as most 5 techs. If he gets reps all over the line, might mean the plan for Raji's replacement isn't set in stone and they just needed a body.

If that's the case, then you have to think they just liked him more than any other interior lineman.

[Patler]

I read one article that I can't find right now that said if you watch enough tape on Myles Jack, you come away with a strong appreciation for what Clark did to free him up.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I read one article that I can't find right now that said if you watch enough tape on Myles Jack, you come away with a strong appreciation for what Clark did to free him up.

Thought I saw that as well on NFL.com.