This is where I'm at.Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig
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This is where I'm at.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
By screwed up for Adams, I am assuming you mean ran the right route, got open and dropped the ball.
By perfect for Janis, I am assuming you mean can only run a fly pattern correctly.
If that is what you meant we are in total agreement.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
Fixed it for you.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I think you have the wrong white WR.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
^ Mad has wired the site to change Janis to Schroeder.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
liar!
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Someone's likely to get hurt or not be ready, which could dictate the situation, but I agree with all of that 31. My guess is Monty won't be ready yet.
Last edited by vince; 05-12-2016 at 02:12 PM.
No, I don't mean just that at all. I mean the time Adams stopped his route and caused an interception, the time he didn't fight to keep his crossing route route in front of the DB, but gave the inside to the DB rather easily and again caused an interception (I think), etc. Adams screwed up a lot more than just dropping balls last year, but there were enough of the dropped balls too to justify giving someone else a few plays in his place .
I'm not suggesting that either Abbrederis or Janis should replace Adams, nor that either one should have played a lot. It just became frustrating that not much on offense was working, yet MM seemed unwilling to go beyond Cobb, Jones and Adams even after Montgomery was out and Jones was hurting. It was mostly an adventure when Janis went deep (he circled one like water in a drain), but two receptions for 79 yards in the regular season plus a couple long PI calls made it seem like trying another now and then couldn't have hurt anything. The offense was mostly in neutral anyway. A couple plays a game is all I wanted to see, even if they didn't throw to him on very many of them.
If they couldn't prepare him for at least a couple plays each game, either he should not be on the roster at all, or the WR noncoaching arrangement was a bigger fail than we even know.
I can think of a bunch of reasons Janis should be dropped. He is not a proficient wide receiver. However, the dude always finds a way to make huge plays. It's hard to not justify a roster spot for a guy like that.
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Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
I don't buy into the "everyone can do what he does better comment".
Abby is a sharp route runner. He could use more speed and might get cut. But he runs much sharper routes IMO than Janis, and Adams. I think Adams routes last year were sometimes lazy and sometimes piss poor and MM gave a long leash to fail, and he used every bit of it. Had MM given him a shorter leash and Janis and Abby more opportunity it may have been a good thing. Janis is fast but runs shit routes and still can't be relied on.
As a route runner, I was also very impressed with Montgomery's sharp routes as well and he picked up our offense very fast. He was a HUGE LOSS. Jordy is our best route runner IMO. Cobb is great improvising and runs decent routes as well. Who knows about Davis.
I can see Abby getting cut or making this team and contributing this year.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Abby isn't a slow as some are suggesting. I know 40 times are not the be all/end all but what else can we use for comparison? Both Abby and Jordy's 40 are virtually identical.
Ah, we all know someone will get hurt anyway so all this will be a moot point.
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Initial reports are very encouraging, in that already he has impressed the DBs, Joe Witt and puppy Wolf.
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...cess/84181302/
In one-on-one drills, practice-squad cornerback Robertson Daniel pressed close to the line of scrimmage. Davis went deep, catching a pass 30 yards downfield.
It looked like a flash of natural, physical ability. It was something more. In his first steps, Davis noticed Daniel was being “patient” with his go-route. Davis took a wide release off the line of scrimmage, avoiding Daniel’s contact.
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“He’s really fast,” Daniel said.
He wasn’t getting burned again. Next rep, Daniel backpedaled to guard against the deep ball. Davis sold the go route, avoided Daniel’s jam off the line of scrimmage. With Daniel’s momentum going backward, Davis stopped on a dime.
The football was in his hands when he turned around.
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“That’s route running,” Daniel said, “and understanding who you’re going against. He understands his opponent. Because a lot of guys I go against sometimes just try to swivel their way by me. He was taking a lot of wide releases (to avoid press-man coverage). He was taking wide releases away from my reach out, away from my strike point. Which is really smart.”
That’s something else Davis was in his first NFL practice — quite smart, actually.
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“It’s everything,” Davis said. “... you have to be a great route runner.
“Working at that is everything, because you’re a receiver. It’s your trade. Running routes is literally everything.”
Davis’ route running was criticized before the draft, but the Packers believe Davis is more than a pure speed receiver.
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Moments after the Packers drafted him, director of football operations Eliot Wolf gushed about Davis’ route running. Very smooth, Wolf said. Sudden. Davis, at 6-foot-1 and 188 pounds, played mostly on the perimeter at Cal. The Packers believe he has the shiftiness and technique to also play the slot.
“Good route runner,” Wolf said.
“The first thing that jumps out at you,” McCarthy said, “is his speed. And his hands.”
Davis knows he has a good chance with Rodgers, who he said “throws perfect deep balls.” If his speed is the key to unlocking a spot on the 53-man roster, his route-running will determine whether he sees the field.
So near the end of his first practice, after Davis shook Daniel for a wide-open catch underneath, it was worth noting cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt Jr.’s booming reaction.
“That’s a good route!” Whitt shouted. “That’s a good route!”
He does have the speed to help ST out, especially on coverage units. So that gives him a pretty big lift that the others don't get.
I think his lack of size and durability questions hurt him more.
“The first thing that jumps out at you,” McCarthy said, “is his speed. And his hands.”
It sounds like the second thing that jumps out at you are his hands.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
For some historical perspective, here is a rookie camp article about another slightly built GB Packer draft pick in 1999, Donald Driver:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/189735661.html
They list him at 180 lbs, various lists and rosters at the time listed him at 180-188.
Recently, of course, there is Abbrederis as a very slightly built receiver. A big difference I see is in musculature. Davis out ran and out jumped Abbrederis by quite a bit, and beat him on the bench press 11 reps to 4. I can't find anything on Driver, except of course that he was world class in high jump, long jump and triple jump in college.
(Edit: I meant to post the above in the thread about Davis, but accidentally posted it here. It seems relevant, so I will leave it in both)
Last edited by Patler; 05-13-2016 at 12:26 PM.
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