Finish the sentence: Packers win the Super Bowl if...

[Pugger]

I think this negativity comes from our 2014 meltdown in Seattle and Rodgers lousy play - for him - last year. If AR returns to his MVP caliber play in 2016 we will be pretty tough to beat.

[pbmax]

I thought we agreed to not talk about Seattle anymore?

[Pugger]

I thought we agreed to not talk about Seattle anymore?

We did?

[pbmax]

We did?

Might have been just me. That game was the definition of a lost opportunity. Proved a lot of critics wrong and was one step away from me getting to argue about a dynasty.

And I am not sure McCarthy has shown he has come to terms with his poor tactics late in the game.

Though it did get Slocum shoved out the door.

[Pugger]

Might have been just me. That game was the definition of a lost opportunity. Proved a lot of critics wrong and was one step away from me getting to argue about a dynasty.

And I am not sure McCarthy has shown he has come to terms with his poor tactics late in the game.

Though it did get Slocum shoved out the door.

Mike did try to shake things up in the assistant coaching ranks and yielded the playcalling so he could become more involved in the other aspects of the team so he tried to fix those issues late in that game. I do think he over-reacted because he ultimately had to take back the playcalling duties and hire a new WR coach and not give Van Pelt both the WR and QB jobs. These 2 offseason moves from last year were greatly responsible for some of our offensive struggles last season IMO.

[pbmax]

Mike did try to shake things up in the assistant coaching ranks and yielded the playcalling so he could become more involved in the other aspects of the team so he tried to fix those issues late in that game. I do think he over-reacted because he ultimately had to take back the playcalling duties and hire a new WR coach and not give Van Pelt both the WR and QB jobs. These 2 offseason moves from last year were greatly responsible for some of our offensive struggles last season IMO.

He did over react but more disconcerting was that I am not sure he changed his approach to 4 minute offense at all.

He has to stop taking the ball out of his best players hands until 3 runs for no gain actually close out the game without another ST play.

[denverYooper]

I thought we agreed to not talk about Seattle anymore?

Talk about what?

[Fritz]

Either MM has to change his approach to the 4 minute offense, or the O-line has to block better and Lacy has to run tougher in the last four minutes. I'll take either one.

[Fritz]

I think in that Seattle game MM was trying that whole "impose our will on you" thing we fans get such a boner about - those runs over and over at the goal line. Maybe a more wet vaginal approach would've worked better.

[Pugger]

I think in that Seattle game MM was trying that whole "impose our will on you" thing we fans get such a boner about - those runs over and over at the goal line. Maybe a more wet vaginal approach would've worked better.

Of course having a gimpy QB in that game limited our playbook to an extent.

You could have used a different metaphor than a wet vagina ya know.

[Fritz]

Of course having a gimpy QB in that game limited our playbook to an extent.

You could have used a different metaphor than a wet vagina ya know.

Well, I think part of this mostly-male desire to "impose your will" comes in part out of some notion that it's more masculine than passing the ball and using more skill instead of force, so to speak. So the wet vagina metaphor seemed to me to be appropriate to my point.

[Pugger]

Well, I think part of this mostly-male desire to "impose your will" comes in part out of some notion that it's more masculine than passing the ball and using more skill instead of force, so to speak. So the wet vagina metaphor seemed to me to be appropriate to my point.

I get that. Perhaps I was being a little thin skinned last night...

[pbmax]

Well, I think part of this mostly-male desire to "impose your will" comes in part out of some notion that it's more masculine than passing the ball and using more skill instead of force, so to speak. So the wet vagina metaphor seemed to me to be appropriate to my point.

I thought he used that line of thinking to defend his decision making. Remember, despite giving some indication he had altered his thinking, he later doubled down on the approach later that offseason. But its not his normal MO when constructing his offense or game plan.

I think he is aware of late game situations where the team in the lead that uses up clock are normally successful. But his data or conclusions are too limited since it is taking him offense away from the things it does well too soon. You need possessions AND clock. Without first downs, the possession is devalued.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I thought he used that line of thinking to defend his decision making. Remember, despite giving some indication he had altered his thinking, he later doubled down on the approach later that offseason. But its not his normal MO when constructing his offense or game plan.

I think he is aware of late game situations where the team in the lead that uses up clock are normally successful. But his data or conclusions are too limited since it is taking him offense away from the things it does well too soon. You need possessions AND clock. Without first downs, the possession is devalued.

+1

[Fritz]

I thought he used that line of thinking to defend his decision making. Remember, despite giving some indication he had altered his thinking, he later doubled down on the approach later that offseason. But its not his normal MO when constructing his offense or game plan.

I think he is aware of late game situations where the team in the lead that uses up clock are normally successful. But his data or conclusions are too limited since it is taking him offense away from the things it does well too soon. You need possessions AND clock. Without first downs, the possession is devalued.

So . . . Go into the four minute offense when there are two-and-a-half minutes left?

[Freak Out]

If Trump allows it the Packers win.

[Fritz]

From a tactical perspective that makes sense. But somehow some folks seem to find it more satisfying to run the ball down the other team's throat than pass for first downs and run it out that way.

To me as long as you complete the pass and stay inbounds the clock runs, so who cares how you keep Th click moving?

[Cheesehead Craig]

... if Rodgers can use his hard count effectively and also catch the defense with 12 men on the field more often.

[George Cumby]

Lol

[pbmax]

If you could accept ALL penalties on the D and get the cumulative yardage, they'd set records.