Mike McCarthy Is On The Hot Seat

[wist43]

Collins, Matthews, Nelson, Finley are just very good? They are or were top 5 at their position consistently. As to Lang and Sitton, they are as well. You not even labeling them as very good, when you are hard pressed to find 10 better players in the league tells me you don't understand how to identify an oline players quality. For some one who likes 'tough' football players, you just threw some of the toughest in the league under the bus.
I acknowledge TT has not been good on the defensive drafting.

Of Collins, Matthews, Nelson, and Finley - the only one I'd consider for "elite" status would be Nelson. Collins would make that category if his career hadn't ended so abruptly. Matthews isn't elite - and of course age is now becoming a factor for him.

[Joemailman]

Of Collins, Matthews, Nelson, and Finley - the only one I'd consider for "elite" status would be Nelson. Collins would make that category if his career hadn't ended so abruptly. Matthews isn't elite - and of course age is now becoming a factor for him.

This whole thing started with you saying Rodgers is the only elite player that TT has drafted. So now you're saying that Collins wasn't an elite player because James Stewart landed on his head and ended his career? After Collins went to 3 straight Pro Bowls and helped the Packers win the Super Bowl by returning an INT for a TD? Oh wait. I forgot. The Super Bowl doesn't count. That was just luck.