Yup, his post totally is nuts. To think that the Packers who invested a 7th round pick, hundreds of thousands of dollars and two years and a preseason would not invest the time to bring Janis around is crazy.Originally Posted by dsilby
Yup, his post totally is nuts. To think that the Packers who invested a 7th round pick, hundreds of thousands of dollars and two years and a preseason would not invest the time to bring Janis around is crazy.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
Also, it's silly to think that a player drafted in the 7th round and not impressing is going to get the same attention as a player drafted in the 2nd round and has shown flashes.
He's fast, but has not shown much beyond that. He runs routes poorly and after two full years he can't read defenses. I see Bill Schroeder in him. He'll show flashes but not consistency. With his ST ability he's a nice last WR to have on the roster.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
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you can't fix stupid
it seems like janis' only issue is between his head. he just can't figure the game out, can't read defenses. if he hasn't come close to figuring it out in 2 years, i have serious doubts he can
Janis is far from stupid. If they would put the same energy into him as they have Adams, he would be much farther along.
What does this mean?
I want to know how you know exactly what's happening in the film room and on the field, etc...
What is missing?
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Game opportunities. One of the assistant coaches (Getsy? Bennett?) even said as much. There are players who are "gamers". Players who in games out perform their practiced based expectations. I think Janis shows signs of that, not just from his playoff performance, but also from his limited regular season opportunities that included several long p.i. calls on defenders who couldn't stay with him.
If he can become a 20-30 receptions guy capable of distracting the defense deep, while continuing to perform on STs like he did last year, he will be around as long as Jarrett Bush.
Fair point. What happened to him tonight?
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Inactive.
Janis had his hand wrapped in ice at practice earlier this week.
I know you are just reflecting comments, so I'm just reacting to what the coach said. What took them so long to figure this out? Some people in school do all their homework assignments really well, but choke on tests because of pressure. Janis seems to not be great at process and better at product, which is part of the word production, which is what this receiving corp. needs. The threat of a vertical, take the top off, passing game would be welcome after last year's passing game fizzled midway to the end of the regular season, with few exceptions.
They have pass rush specialists who get a limited number of snaps and are just going like hell using their given abilities to get to the QB. They are not asked to stop the run, to set the edge, or to do any of the dirty work. They are paid dearly to go like hell and knock the QB off his spot, or better yet off his feet. Are they making a mistake to not get what they can out of Janis' current skill set? If he got 5-10 snaps a gvename and was able to take the top off the defense, that could even open up the middle of the field if they had to commit an extra safety over the top. Just the threat of what he could do might open things up.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
I don't think many NFL rosters have a spot for someone who is a specialist who will only play 5-10 snaps a game. If the starter gets hurt you have to put in the player who will be a liability the rest of the game.
Janis has the advantage that his special teams play last year was excellent. So that extends his usefulness to at least 20 plays a game.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
The Packers will play anyone with talent and drive. Look at Sam Shields as example 1. He was an undrafted free agent.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
Helpful tip, Tex and Rut love the attention. Do with that what you will
Zool, I'd tell you what a scumbag and an imbecile you are if this was FYI, but since it ain't, I'll just let people read your intelligent words hahahahahaha.
I did say IF Janis was mentally or attitudinally deficient - I don't particularly believe that, but some people say it like it's gospel. Whatever the case, it's ON THE COACHING STAFF if he falls short of his potential with the Packers. I'd hate to see us lose him and then have him resurface with somebody else and play like a star.
For the guy who questioned the Dez Bryant example of a person who has a bunch of mental and attitude problems but still plays like a star, maybe you should research some of his history.
I don't know why Janis hasn't been brought along faster. I doubt anybody else in here does either. It's annoying and disappointing to me, though, and it is not the only example of that past and present - Packer player(s) seemingly having the most ability getting held back in favor of ........ whoever for whatever reason. I've seen various stuff on various teams in several sports - what it seems to me is coaches and GMs getting a lot of credit when the teams win, but not (IMO) maximizing how good the team could do.
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Alright. Let's be clear here.
1) Name me all these players that have had the most ability and the Packers chose to hold them back? I'd love to know who these players are.
2) Nobody ever said Jeff Janis has a bad attitude, nobody. You're either making that up or hearing things wrong.
3) Nobody is saying Janis has mentally issues as gospel like you said. All you have to do is follow the team, it's that easy. Every single beat writer since Janis was drafted that are in camp and on the sideline ALL say the exact same thing. That he just does not get the system. Read an article, listen to the reporters. It's all out there.
4) To say the Packers are not giving him his fair chance is just flat wrong. Janis is playing with the 1's every day in practice. Not sure what else you want. The guy is playing with the starters. He's just having a very hard keeping up.
And this isn't Janis hating. I'm sure every single Packer fan wants him to be awesome, that only helps the team. But so far he's been far from it. And there is nobody to blame by himself.
Here's a quote from Janis from Wednesday,
“I feel like I’ve gotten better at route-running. That’s something I’ve been trying to focus on. Now it’s just reading the defense and being where I’m supposed when Aaron wants me to be there.”
So even Janis knows he's having problems running routes and being where he's supposed to be, and reading defenses and so on.
I think everyone knows it except you, even Janis knows it.
I think Janis' issue is he has problems reading defenses on the fly and why Jeff is great when he can just use his speed and outrun defenders as long as Rodgers/a QB has time to find him. And he'll make the roster on his ST prowess alone. If Ty can shine in ST too we'll have a great pair there for sure.
So if I'm reading some of you correctly, Janis could be The Packers "Forrest Gump" ?
Run Jeff Run ! STOP !
If your not the lead dog , then the view never changes !
Craig Nall!!! If only he's been given half a chance!
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Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
Haha. Or Sixto Lezcano! Oh wait, wrong team and sport. My bad.Craig Nall!!! If only he's been given half a chance!
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