That's my recollection as well - there was no chance of keeping Wahle, thinking was he was a guard only because of Clifton. Panthers gave him LT money, but I don't think he played there much. Packers thought they could hold onto Riviera, and offered him a good contract, but Jerah threw buckets of money at him. I don't think anyone expected that.Originally Posted by pbmax
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He made it seems like they had no interest in bringing him back
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You guys, it's gonna be fine. Sitton is on the down slope. Taylor is ascending. The Packers like Taylor.
We moved on fine without Brett Favre. We'll be OK without Josh Sitton. Especially when Lindsley comes back, we're young and two deep, maybe 3 if you count spriggs, who had a decent enough showing. Give him a couple more months in the weight room and fresh legs and he might hold up if he gets tossed in too.
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Next year it will probably be Bahktiari-Taylor-Lindsley-Tretter-Bulaga with Spriggs, Murphy and a draft pick and who knows what else coming off the bench. It's time to move on.
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I think the plan is for Spriggs to play LT. When the Packers drafted Bakhtiari, a lot of people had him projected as a Guard even though he played LT at Colorado. He had to play LT because Bulaga blew out his knee on Family Night. I think the lineup could be Spriggs/Bakhtiari/Linsley or Tretter/Lang/Bulaga.
That's possible, Joe. Bahk has been a solid NFL LT. That's gonna be hard to beat. I could see Spriggs being the swing tackle for a couple years or taking a spot. Bahk is in his prime starting right now. Let's see what he's got.
And Bulaga has never been healthy. Spriggs might just be insurance for whichever tackle can't stay healthy.
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IF we can keep Bak next year. FA LTs get paid so this is prob why we traded up to draft Spriggs. It will be interesting to see if we can extend him before he becomes a FA.
Going into 2015 I wouldn't have predicted that Bakhtiari would get an elite LT type of contract. Decent, but not special. Now, I'm not sure. Apparently he was absolutely dominating in one on one drills in camp. I have also read that he has quietly overcome the two limitations he had coming out of college, size and strength. He was under 300 lbs at the combine, and even less than that in college. He is listed at 310 now, but I have read he is actually at closer to 320, with a lot of added muscle since his rookie year. One article mentioned he was ready for a breakout type of year last year, but he fought injuries all year right from training camp. He was even questionable for game one and never was that healthy at anytime in 2015.
This will be an interesting season for Bakhtiari.
This year is Super Bowl or Bust; no good reason from what I can see to not bring him back for one more year and let him leave in style unless TWT thinks we can win a Super Bowl w/o Josh Sitton
Let the results speak for themselves
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
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^^^Agree! I think their high on Lucas Patrick too.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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I am tellin' ya... Bahktiari is walking after this season if he isn't the starting left tackle for the foreseeable future. The difference in money between good guards and good tackles is gigantic.
Regarding the age conversation, 7 Packers out of 53 are 30+.
This is possible. I'm not sure what Bakhtiari's market will be. He's been a starting LT, but I'm not sure if he's considered to be a really good one. I think Spriggs is a more natural LT. One out of Bakhtiari/Tretter/Lang/Bulaga will be gone next year. It could be Bulaga if he has another injury-filled year. I think you could see a couple of guys get contract extensions later this year once the Packers decide which guys they want to go with.
Lane Taylor has really not played that well
I can't imagine MM and TWT thinking they can last a season with him as the starter
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
These two statements considered in light of the Packers history dealing with starters and older players nearing the ends of their contracts have me convinced that things we are unaware of or do not fully appreciate caused the release of Sitton in the way it happened.
I don't much like Lane Taylor either. About the only thing you can say about him his he is better than Barclay. I don't much like Bakhtiari either - better than his first year, but not up to the standard of a good NFL O Lineman. None of them are remotely close to star-quality, and that includes Sitton.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, almost every time our all world QB drops back, he is running for his life. Fortunately, he does that extremely well and hits his targets like nobody else. No thanks to the O Line, though. Run blocking hasn't IMO been a helluva lot better either, especially when they need to just line up and push people back rather than hitting them by surprise when the D is geared for the passing game. I think THAT scenario had a lot to do with McCarthy saying "some positions are more important than others ....." and the team letting Sitton go instead of negotiating a big contract extension for him.
I guess that still doesn't explain cutting Sitton instead of squeezing one more year out of his old contract. Maybe he hit the team with a hold out threat a week before the season was to start, who knows.
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Why would Sitton holdout? That would be stupid. Dude's in his 30's, has a family to feed and he was due $6.5 M, which is way more than I make in a year rocking on subway platforms for change.
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
To get his extension now - or as it turns out, a big contract elsewhere - before playing another season and seeing his value decrease.
I'm not saying that's what happened - just "maybe". It's as good an explanation as any other put forth.
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Great read from McGinn on it. Sounds like the Packers just straight up blew it and there hand was forced. This jives with TT's comments earlier this week about Josh being a heck of a football player.
http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...mbit/90149052/
TT said Sitton was a heck of a football player and a good teammate. He didn't have to praise Sitton's character. He went out of his way to correct the record. People need to STFU with the "something happened" innuendo.
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