I just watched the first quarter over again and on several occasions Arod could have thrown short cause a guy was open, but opted to go downfield. He and Stubby like big plays. It's what they do.Originally Posted by run pMc
I just watched the first quarter over again and on several occasions Arod could have thrown short cause a guy was open, but opted to go downfield. He and Stubby like big plays. It's what they do.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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Really bad field position in both games, not helped at all by the new punter. Are there any unemployed kickers out there that can kick it farther than 30 yards? Maybe sign a new guy?
Yeah but ........ I'm pretty sure that ratio was extremely back loaded on passes - desperation time, after the damage was done. If you have a dominant O Line and/or a mediocre QB, then you run-first. If you have a very mediocre O Line and the world's greatest QB, you PASS FIRST, and maybe catch 'em by surprise once in a while with a run. That should be obvious - but it ain't to McCarthy, and seemingly to many in this forum.
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McCarthy's offense, going back to Favre, has never done 12 short passes per drive for Touchdowns. They are looking deep much, much more.
When forced to keep it short, you get what we have seen for the last 16 games.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
It was 15 passes and 9 runs in the first half tex.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Then let the sucking and losing continue. That will be the only way he'll get canned.
Like I said. That's not nearly enough with this QB and this O Line. If you want to break down the numbers more, how many of those passes were in obvious passing situations because they frittered away one or two downs with lame ass runs?
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Damn straight. Did Mortell ever sign with anybody else? Or heaven forbid, even Masthay? Both were way better than this new piece-of-crap.
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Whether intentional or not, the perception seems to be we must win with Aaron throwing a lot instead of simply calling the game and adjusting. If Lacy gets a hot hand, or Starks, then let them have more focus during that particular game. If the opponent knows that you are forcing a game plan, they are going just change to the template that defenses have used to stop the Packers offense since the slump started last season. Is MM willing to try and emphasize Lacy and run game more, try and establish the run more instead of letting it disappear in a one score game, or does he feel "obligated" by pay or perception of his star QB to ride Aaron's talents no matter what? Sometimes trying harder is the worst thing you can do.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
In this case, perception is reality. The reason they won't/CAN'T stick with run-first - why it disappears in most games - is that it simply doesn't work with this O Line. The damn shame of it is McCarthy sticks with that run-first mentality so damn long before finally getting the message. It ain't like the Badgers against most of the Big Ten. The key to Lacy or Starks "getting the hot hand" is running as a change of pace after a bunch of pass plays. The only "obligation" I see is the obsession to run to set up the pass when it SHOULD be the other way around.
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Finely couldn't run routes for shit his first few years. He eventually learned how to run routes and even threw in an effective block here and there at the end.
He was green as goose shit when he started and when he learned the job, he was shot physically.
There are many guys with similar stories/learning curves.
Masthay?
Yes, whatever became of the notion of taking what the damn defense gives you?
I wonder how often Rodgers changes run plays at the LOS to a pass play?
I do think we should run Eddie into the ground. Most backs like him only get better if they get a lot of touches and wear out a defense.
Cook can run routes. I suspect once he gets more familiar with the offense and working with AR he'll produce. Jered was sidelined for a while this summer after his foot surgery so he is still catching up IMO.
He also developed a fear of going for contested balls, especially over the middle.
His experience in his contract year with dropsies and the injury really messed with this kids head. He was never the same fearless player after he got hurt.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Most RBs like him and not like him are running behind a decent O Line.
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Tex, I responded in another thread to your constant belittling of the offensive line.
This is the same offensive line (except they have more experience), basically, as in 2014 when Rodgers won his last MVP.
So how do you figure it's the offensive line that's the problem?
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That's easy. McCarthy - stupidly IMO - has gravitated to a run-first mentality since that time. Incredibly, some would like to see him degenerate even further in that direction.
Even in 2014 and before, Rodgers did not have a lot of time to pass - Tom Brady time, Peyton Manning time, etc., but then, as now, he had/has that wonderful escapability and ability to throw on the run or reset and throw. Teams didn't dare blitz him because he'd make them regret it. Hell, they didn't need to blitz because 4 and 3 man rushes poured right through our O Line anyway - then and now. Then, however, the team had a more Pass-First mentality - a lot more passes on early downs, and when we did run, it often took the other team by surprise and was successful. Occasionally, you still see that, but not nearly enough. Even back then, when the O Line had an obvious run situation, the O Line wasn't much able to just push 'em back.
That's the way I remember it. I really don't know why McCarthy fell for the crap that you need to run to set up the pass, but it has made the offense worse. I still think this team is good enough to win it all - and will win it all - just not because of the lame-assed O Line, but in spite of it with Aaron Rodgers just playing his normal game.
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When a team has 1 or more above average RBs, Running the football becomes a no-brainier . (1) It protects the football as yardage is gained. (2) It provides the Team/Offense a way to eat clock and
rest the Defense . (3) It keeps opposing Defenses honest about rushing the QB . and (4) A good running attack can reduce putting the entire success of the Offense on the QB's shoulders .
Too many fans believe in the instant success, the flashy Offense , the lightning attack. Tex , as usual , has gotten it wrong. All Offensive linemen have, sense they began playing the sport, been taught to run block first . It is part of the fundamentals of their positions . Pass blocking is something that is added as the seasons accumulate . MM is most correct to utilize his running attack and have it develop into a stronger force as the season progresses . Now especially as the passing game is still suffering from a bad case of "slow" .
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