vince, can you post the link or the Game Finder settings you used to get those lists? Having trouble duplicating.
vince, can you post the link or the Game Finder settings you used to get those lists? Having trouble duplicating.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Total games toggle at the top and at the bottom of the selection set of the first Additional Criteria are the "Halftime score margin" and "Score margin after 3 q" for each query, each set to greater than or equal to 1 obviously. The others like year range, all teams etc. I'm sure you'll find obvious.Originally Posted by pbmax
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Current search:
In multiple seasons, from 2006 to 2016, requiring Score margin after 3 Qtrs >= 1, sorted by most games matching criteria
Well, we may have to give Vince and pugger (and Beveraux?) a medal because if you take vince's search and make some changes, its clear we are talking about less than a handful of games where the situations we describe here make a difference.
If you look at just playoff games, there are 2 games you might remember:
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original TableCode:Rk Tm From To W L T W-L% Count 1 Denver Broncos 2011 2015 5 0 0 1.000 5 Ind. Games 2 Arizona Cardinals 2008 2009 4 0 0 1.000 4 Ind. Games 3 New Orleans Saints 2006 2013 4 0 0 1.000 4 Ind. Games 4 New York Giants 2007 2011 4 0 0 1.000 4 Ind. Games 5 Carolina Panthers 2014 2015 3 0 0 1.000 3 Ind. Games 6 Philadelphia Eagles 2006 2008 3 0 0 1.000 3 Ind. Games 7 Chicago Bears 2006 2010 2 0 0 1.000 2 Ind. Games 8 Houston Texans 2011 2012 2 0 0 1.000 2 Ind. Games 9 New York Jets 2009 2010 2 0 0 1.000 2 Ind. Games 10 Jacksonville Jaguars 2007 2007 1 0 0 1.000 1 Ind. Games 11 Baltimore Ravens 2008 2014 8 1 0 0.889 9 Ind. Games 12 Pittsburgh Steelers 2008 2015 5 1 0 0.833 6 Ind. Games 13 Green Bay Packers 2007 2015 7 2 0 0.778 9 Ind. Games 14 New England Patriots 2006 2015 8 3 0 0.727 11 Ind. Games 15 Seattle Seahawks 2006 2014 5 2 0 0.714 7 Ind. Games 16 Indianapolis Colts 2006 2014 7 3 0 0.700 10 Ind. Games 17 San Francisco 49ers 2011 2013 4 2 0 0.667 6 Ind. Games 18 San Diego Chargers 2006 2013 3 2 0 0.600 5 Ind. Games 19 Atlanta Falcons 2012 2012 1 1 0 0.500 2 Ind. Games 20 Kansas City Chiefs 2013 2015 1 1 0 0.500 2 Ind. Games 21 Minnesota Vikings 2009 2015 1 1 0 0.500 2 Ind. Games 22 Dallas Cowboys 2006 2014 1 3 0 0.250 4 Ind. Games 23 Detroit Lions 2014 2014 0 1 0 0.000 1 Ind. Games 24 Washington Redskins 2012 2012 0 1 0 0.000 1 Ind. Games Total 2006 2015 81 24 0 .771 105
Generated 9/30/2016.
The Packers list is this:
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original TableCode:Pass Marg Rk Tm Year Date Time LTime Opp Week G# Day Result OT Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Sk Yds Q1 Q2 Q3 1 GNB 2007 2008-01-12 4:33 3:33 SEA 19 17 Sat W 42-20 18 23 78.3 173 3 0 1 0 0 11 15 2 GNB 2010 2011-01-09 4:40 4:40 PHI 18 17 Sun W 21-16 18 27 66.7 171 3 0 2 9 7 11 11 3 GNB 2010 2011-01-15 8:15 8:15 ATL 19 18 Sat W 48-21 31 36 86.1 346 3 0 2 20 -7 14 28 4 GNB 2010 2011-02-06 6:34 5:34 N PIT 21 20 Sun W 31-25 24 39 61.5 288 3 0 3 16 14 11 4 5 GNB 2015 2016-01-10 4:42 4:42 WAS 18 17 Sun W 35-18 21 36 58.3 205 2 0 1 5 -5 6 6 6 GNB 2015 2016-01-16 8:15 6:15 ARI 19 18 Sat L 20-26 OT 24 44 54.5 251 2 1 1 10 -7 -1 3 7 GNB 2012 2013-01-05 8:09 7:09 MIN 18 17 Sat W 24-10 23 33 69.7 250 1 0 3 24 4 14 21 8 GNB 2014 2015-01-18 3:06 12:06 SEA 20 18 Sun L 22-28 OT 19 34 55.9 171 1 2 1 7 13 16 9 9 GNB 2010 2011-01-23 3:05 2:05 CHI 20 19 Sun W 21-14 17 30 56.7 236 0 2 1 8 7 14 14
Generated 9/30/2016.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
OK, different question, what about trailing at 3 Quarters?
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original TableCode:Rk Tm From To W L T W-L% Count 1 Cleveland Browns 2006 2015 3 48 0 0.059 51 Ind. Games 2 New York Giants 2006 2015 9 40 0 0.184 49 Ind. Games 3 St. Louis Rams 2006 2015 2 47 0 0.041 49 Ind. Games 4 Houston Texans 2006 2015 6 42 0 0.125 48 Ind. Games 5 Oakland Raiders 2006 2015 3 45 0 0.063 48 Ind. Games 6 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2006 2015 3 45 0 0.063 48 Ind. Games 7 Jacksonville Jaguars 2006 2015 2 45 0 0.043 47 Ind. Games 8 Cincinnati Bengals 2006 2015 4 41 1 0.098 46 Ind. Games 9 Tennessee Titans 2006 2015 6 40 0 0.130 46 Ind. Games 10 Atlanta Falcons 2006 2015 5 40 0 0.111 45 Ind. Games 11 Buffalo Bills 2006 2015 3 42 0 0.067 45 Ind. Games 12 Detroit Lions 2006 2015 2 42 0 0.045 44 Ind. Games 13 Chicago Bears 2006 2015 5 37 0 0.119 42 Ind. Games 14 Minnesota Vikings 2006 2015 1 41 0 0.024 42 Ind. Games 15 Arizona Cardinals 2006 2015 3 38 0 0.073 41 Ind. Games 16 Carolina Panthers 2006 2015 3 35 0 0.079 38 Ind. Games 17 San Francisco 49ers 2006 2015 3 35 0 0.079 38 Ind. Games 18 Denver Broncos 2006 2015 6 31 0 0.162 37 Ind. Games 19 Kansas City Chiefs 2006 2015 1 36 0 0.027 37 Ind. Games 20 San Diego Chargers 2006 2015 5 32 0 0.135 37 Ind. Games 21 Seattle Seahawks 2006 2015 8 29 0 0.216 37 Ind. Games 22 Miami Dolphins 2006 2015 4 32 0 0.111 36 Ind. Games 23 New York Jets 2006 2015 2 34 0 0.056 36 Ind. Games 24 Baltimore Ravens 2006 2015 3 33 0 0.083 36 Ind. Games 25 Washington Redskins 2006 2015 3 33 0 0.083 36 Ind. Games 26 Dallas Cowboys 2006 2015 5 30 0 0.143 35 Ind. Games 27 New Orleans Saints 2006 2015 4 31 0 0.114 35 Ind. Games 28 Philadelphia Eagles 2006 2015 1 32 0 0.030 33 Ind. Games 29 Indianapolis Colts 2006 2015 7 25 0 0.219 32 Ind. Games 30 Pittsburgh Steelers 2006 2015 5 27 0 0.156 32 Ind. Games 31 Green Bay Packers 2006 2015 4 26 0 0.133 30 Ind. Games 32 New England Patriots 2006 2015 8 20 0 0.286 28 Ind. Games Total 2006 2015 129 1154 1 .101 1284
Generated 9/30/2016.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Hard to believe he couldn't have swapped in a short yardage play with two TEs and two WRs. Roll Rodgers right with the weak-side TE going that way and then he has multiple options. Whatever, we now know with utmost certainty that overtime in postseason is instant death for the Packers.
Stubby don't think on the fly.
Like I said earlier - had MM gone for 2 and we didn't get it you guys would bitched about that. Mike went with the percentages and the tie to try and win it in OT. Who knew our ST and defense couldn't stop Fitzgerald and our offense yet again never saw the damn ball in OT. Besides - who here really thought if we had won that game would we have gone to Charlotte and beaten the Panthers the following week? Or beaten Denver in the SB? This is ancient history. It is way past time to move on from this, gentlemen.
That's the lie. That wasn't the percentage play.
How does the offense, which cannot run a 2 pt play because Janis is injured, score in OT? Was Mr. Miyagi with Janis on the sideline and just needed time? Did McCarthy have a special OT touchdown play on the chart for 2 TE and 2 RB?
I would also like someone who believes McCarthy is correct to run more to protect his defense, defend sending the defense out there again to stop the best NFC offense of 2015?
It too TWO hail marys to climb back into the game. Who was going to deliver another in OT?
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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According to 538's math, the Packers would have had about a 48.8% chance of winning had they gone for two after the Aaron Rodgers-Jeff Janis hail mary, but just a 40.9% chance of winning if they tried for overtime. This isn't as significant as the Chiefs, who kicked a PAT to go down seven late in the game in New England, which as you'll see is about a 15% swing.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I agree with Pugger. I've been here long enough to know the criticisms that would have followed had he gone for two and lost.
- why pin your season on a single play with your entire receiving corp on the sideline?
- it's dumb to go for two without the personnel that have practiced the two point offense.
- if you take the sure tie, anything can happen in OT, ST score, D score, doesn't have to be the offense.
- GB already had two interceptions, OT could have brought another.
Agree completely. Very good points.
Also, MM had to make this decision within... what? 15-20 seconds of the TD being scored?
If you just get told you don't have enough WRs to run your 2pt play and need to decide what to do within 20 seconds of course the smart thing is to just kick the extra point and live another down.
I am better looking than you.
One has to wonder if he could have processed the fact that his set two point package wasn't available, decided on what plays to use instead, gotten the message out to the assistants to get the correct players on the field and communicated the play selection to Rodgers in the time allowed.
If Michael James Liam Daniel McCarthy's approach to game management includes making ALL the complex calculations between plays without a timeout, then he needs to be removed from the job immediately. This board is now taking an excuse made in the offseason and now ret-conning into a coaching philosophy.
Here is a partial list of things he knew before Janis got hurt.
1. His WR group was thin already. Adams got hurt versus Washington and was not expected to play (this was reported by Tuesday of the week prior to game). Jones was banged up from midseason on. Cobb got hurt in the first quarter and left the game. He played Abby and Janis for most of the game.
2. Having one 2 point play is so dumb, I refuse to believe its his actual approach. While I have disagreements about his methods, I don't think he is this short sighted. Did he have just one goal line play?
3. The ENTIRE GAME was within one score at all times. That makes 2 point conversions an important consideration during the entire game. Especially the entire fourth quarter when you are trailing by conventional scores (3 or 7 points) and have a sputtering offense.
4. McCarty had the 2 minute warning (right before the FG that made it a seven point game) prior to their last drive. Cardinals took a TO at 00:55 seconds remaining.
A coach with a compromised WR position and no depth, had ALL WEEK to prepare more than one 2 pt conversion play and failed to anticipate that this single point of failure was perhaps unwise. It literally should be a weekly part of his preparation that he has more than one go to play in case of emergency that involves multiple personnel groups. McCarthy is so keen on his prep that I cannot imagine he doesn't have this on his chart.
Janis being hurt means Janis might not be able to play the rest of the game. There is no benefit to extending the game in that case. This is the part that kills me. McCarthy doesn't have a full report on player health AFTER the game. But he knows Janis will come back after the PAT and a kickoff have passed?
His offense was putrid in that game. He knew this when the final drive started and he was down seven. At a minimum, he or someone on his staff has the entire drive (and this does not include the calculation that could have been run while the Cardinals were on their previous possession) to find a play.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Who said he only had one play?
Despite all the emotion, there is a point buried here, that if true, points to some of his short comings in game management.
If he really was all about that one play for a 2 point conversion, then Mike McCarthy as a coach is dependent entirely on the health of his squad to execute a game plan. Which means at the end of the game he could quite easily be lost without a path to turn to. And since he doesn't know how to take advantage of leverage except when in the lead, this would put him in a precarious position when behind late.
I don't believe he had only the one play. But I might believe that he had one play he liked much better than the others.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I was not happy with the decision to kick the EP because I felt that we had a kind of momentum that comes with 2 successful Hail Marys, but I feel certain that there would have been as much criticism on this board from people who couldn't believe that he went for two with Janis out of the game and no viable replacement.
Belichick could have processed all that, drawn up ten NEW plays with the players available and had time to spare.
Stubby
They would have argued that our defense had kept us in the game to that point and we pinned all our hopes on one play with a beat up offense with no receivers.
Of course he could be criticized. Comes with the territory. But it must be a question about what gives you the best chance to win as a team.
Bad offense from the 2.5 yard line > Bad offense from their own 20
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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