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    Official Week 8 Packers/Falcons Discussion Thread

    Packers under McCarthy are 4-2 against the Falcons, including winning the last 4. In 3 of those games, (Flynn played in 2013) Rodgers is 81-111, 1089 yards, 8 TD's, 0 INT's for a passer rating of 127.8.

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    Time for all of us to pile into the time warp machine and go back to 2010. Injury list mounting every game, team looking good in patches and awful for longer patches. Darkness and doom surrounding Packer Nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Time for all of us to pile into the time warp machine and go back to 2010. Injury list mounting every game, team looking good in patches and awful for longer patches. Darkness and doom surrounding Packer Nation.
    It's getting worse. I just seen on Packers News on FB that Abbrederis is going on IR. Supposedly they are promoting Allison from the PS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    It's getting worse. I just seen on Packers News on FB that Abbrederis is going on IR. Supposedly they are promoting Allison from the PS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    It's getting worse. I just seen on Packers News on FB that Abbrederis is going on IR. Supposedly they are promoting Allison from the PS.
    This is a change with little to no impact because Abbrederis has had no impact so far.

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    i think this is dal 2.0

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    One good thing about the upcoming game is their pass defense blows so hopefully we can keep up and pull out a win up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    One good thing about the upcoming game is their pass defense blows so hopefully we can keep up and pull out a win up there.
    Which of course means that the Falcons pass D will have a superb game.

    When was the last time an opponent completely laid an egg against GB? I know that teams always try to bring their best game, but even the scrub teams seem to play well against GB.

    Except the Bears. But their QB had to break an arm first. He was trying to break a leg...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    Which of course means that the Falcons pass D will have a superb game.
    When was the last time an opponent completely laid an egg against GB? I know that teams always try to bring their best game, but even the scrub teams seem to play well against GB.
    Except the Bears. But their QB had to break an arm first. He was trying to break a leg...
    Ignoring any opinion about the actual relative impact the Bear offensive QB situation, the Bear defense and the Packer offense had on the Packer offense's ability to move the ball - here are the teams that the Packers offense has exposed for pretty big production in the last year-long period of offensive challenges that started last year in Denver (Week 7).

    The Packers offense gained over 400 yds. four times since the Denver debacle - twice last year against #6 D Carolina (402 yds. Loss, Week 8) and #17 Dallas (435 yds. Win, Week 13), and twice more so far this year against the #19 D Giants (406, Win, Week 4) and the #12 D Bears (406. Win, Week 6). Yes the Bears currently have the #12 ranked overall defense.

    They were pretty much completely futile twice last year against the league’s best defense in Denver (140 yds., Loss, Week 7) and #5 D Arizona (178 yds., Loss, Week 15).

    The worst game this year in terms of moving the ball was also the league’s #1 D Minnesota (263 yds., Loss, Week 2).

    All other games in the last year they've gained 300 – 400 yards – against #9 D Jacksonville, #25 Detroit and #17 Dallas this year. Last year they gained 300-400 yards against #13 Minnesota, #24 Jacksonville, #18 Detroit and #14 Chicago.

    With a couple exceptions where they moved it well against top 10 defenses (You might say those defenses laid an egg.) the Packers have pretty much moved it well against decent, average and below defenses – while shitting the bed against elite (top 5 or better) defenses - big-time last year but not so much this year.

    Atlanta’s defense is currently ranked THE WORST of all of the last 16 regular season opponents over the last year post-Denver at #26 overall YTD, giving up 386 yds. and more than 28 pts a game.

    The Packers have had well-documented issues scoring points in the red zone, but they've moved the ball into the red zone really well overall. I can’t see any reason why they shouldn’t be able to do so against the worst defense of all of them in Atlanta.

    Now they have to figure out how to start punching it in with some consistency. It’s possible they could get outscored this week, but it figures to be the best opportunity in the last 16 games to start establishing some of that consistency moving forward.
    Last edited by vince; 10-26-2016 at 01:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Ignoring any opinion about the actual relative impact the Bear offensive QB situation, the Bear defense and the Packer offense had on the Packer offense's ability to move the ball - here are the teams that the Packers offense has exposed for pretty big production in the last year-long period of offensive challenges that started last year in Denver (Week 7).

    The Packers offense gained over 400 yds. four times since the Denver debacle - twice last year against #6 D Carolina (402 yds. Loss, Week 8) and #17 Dallas (435 yds. Win, Week 13), and twice more so far this year against the #19 D Giants (406, Win, Week 4) and the #12 D Bears (406. Win, Week 6). Yes the Bears currently have the #12 ranked overall defense.

    They were pretty much completely futile twice last year against the league’s best defense in Denver (140 yds., Loss, Week 7) and #5 D Arizona (178 yds., Loss, Week 15).

    The worst game this year in terms of moving the ball was also the league’s #1 D Minnesota (263 yds., Loss, Week 2).

    All other games in the last year they've gained 300 – 400 yards – against #9 D Jacksonville, #25 Detroit and #17 Dallas this year. Last year they gained 300-400 yards against #13 Minnesota, #24 Jacksonville, #18 Detroit and #14 Chicago.

    With a couple exceptions where they moved it well against top 10 defenses (You might say those defenses laid an egg.) the Packers have pretty much moved it well against decent, average and below defenses – while shitting the bed against elite (top 5 or better) defenses - big-time last year but not so much this year.

    Atlanta’s defense is currently ranked THE WORST of all of the last 16 regular season opponents over the last year post-Denver at #26 overall YTD, giving up 386 yds. and more than 28 pts a game.

    The Packers have had well-documented issues scoring points in the red zone, but they've moved the ball into the red zone really well overall. I can’t see any reason why they shouldn’t be able to do so against the worst defense of all of them in Atlanta.

    Now they have to figure out how to start punching it in with some consistency. It’s possible they could get outscored this week, but it figures to be the best opportunity in the last 16 games to start establishing some of that consistency moving forward.
    What's with all these fact, numbers and shit?

    Edit: Great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Ignoring any opinion about the actual relative impact the Bear offensive QB situation, the Bear defense and the Packer offense had on the Packer offense's ability to move the ball - here are the teams that the Packers offense has exposed for pretty big production in the last year-long period of offensive challenges that started last year in Denver (Week 7).

    The Packers offense gained over 400 yds. four times since the Denver debacle - twice last year against #6 D Carolina (402 yds. Loss, Week 8) and #17 Dallas (435 yds. Win, Week 13), and twice more so far this year against the #19 D Giants (406, Win, Week 4) and the #12 D Bears (406. Win, Week 6). Yes the Bears currently have the #12 ranked overall defense.

    They were pretty much completely futile twice last year against the league’s best defense in Denver (140 yds., Loss, Week 7) and #5 D Arizona (178 yds., Loss, Week 15).

    The worst game this year in terms of moving the ball was also the league’s #1 D Minnesota (263 yds., Loss, Week 2).

    All other games in the last year they've gained 300 – 400 yards – against #9 D Jacksonville, #25 Detroit and #17 Dallas this year. Last year they gained 300-400 yards against #13 Minnesota, #24 Jacksonville, #18 Detroit and #14 Chicago.

    With a couple exceptions where they moved it well against top 10 defenses (You might say those defenses laid an egg.) the Packers have pretty much moved it well against decent, average and below defenses – while shitting the bed against elite (top 5 or better) defenses - big-time last year but not so much this year.

    Atlanta’s defense is currently ranked THE WORST of all of the last 16 regular season opponents over the last year post-Denver at #26 overall YTD, giving up 386 yds. and more than 28 pts a game.

    The Packers have had well-documented issues scoring points in the red zone, but they've moved the ball into the red zone really well overall. I can’t see any reason why they shouldn’t be able to do so against the worst defense of all of them in Atlanta.

    Now they have to figure out how to start punching it in with some consistency. It’s possible they could get outscored this week, but it figures to be the best opportunity in the last 16 games to start establishing some of that consistency moving forward.
    Thank you.

    Mrs QBME and I are travelling to Atlanta for the game, as we pick an away game every year to attend. We booked the trip during pre-season and I've been feeling pretty shitty about it lately. Then the NFL flexed the game to 3:25 PM and forced us to extend the trip another day. (Get up for first flight out Monday morning and then go to work.)

    So, yes, woe is me. Need some more reasons why the Pack will pull this one out.

    PBMax - please start a thread and ruminate on the overall health of the Falcons, particularly Matt Ryan and Julio Jones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QBME View Post
    Thank you.

    Mrs QBME and I are travelling to Atlanta for the game, as we pick an away game every year to attend. We booked the trip during pre-season and I've been feeling pretty shitty about it lately. Then the NFL flexed the game to 3:25 PM and forced us to extend the trip another day. (Get up for first flight out Monday morning and then go to work.)

    So, yes, woe is me. Need some more reasons why the Pack will pull this one out.

    PBMax - please start a thread and ruminate on the overall health of the Falcons, particularly Matt Ryan and Julio Jones.
    They had a Packer Game Rally tonight in Atlanta QBME. Any chance you got to see it?


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    I like the feel of this one, and precisely because things are looking so dark and gloomy. Really, with all the injuries and the discombobulated offense, this team is looking like it's going nowhere. But we've seen some spark from the defense (when it's not getting run over by the Dallas OL) and maybe being forced to drop back 65 times will force Rodgers to readjust his mechanics. If not, they will get run over by the tune of 35-3.

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    You think the Falcons' mighty defense can prevent us from scoring more than a FG?

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    Tevin Coleman is supposedly out with a hammy. That could be big because he could expose GB out of the backfield catching it. Assuming they can contain Freeman running with it (I think they can. He's averaging 72 yds./game), Julio is their whole passing attack without Coleman. Sanu hasn't done much at all to this point.

    Their offensive line is average at best. Ryan's been sacked 18 times already - 3rd most in the league. If the pass rush can get to Ryan, they can semi-contain Jones, and the offense can put up some points against their weak secondary, I think this is a winnable game. It seems to me like a much more favorable matchup than Minnesota and Dallas anyway.

    Put Gunter in press coverage on Julio with Brice's speed and physicality over the top - and get after Matty Ice. Don't turn it over for a change and I think they'll be right in this game.

    If they can't somewhat contain Julio, pressure Ryan and/or fumble in the red zone - it could be a long day.

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    It smells to me like that's why the change has been made. I'd say it's pretty unusual for a guy to go on IR with a thigh bruise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    It smells to me like that's why the change has been made. I'd say it's pretty unusual for a guy to go on IR with a thigh bruise.
    Both he and Banjo probably can come back this year. But they needed the spots now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Both he and Banjo probably can come back this year. But they needed the spots now.
    Packers need reinforcements at RB, CB and TE, not WR and S. Thompson replaced Abberderis and Banjo with another WR and another S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Packers need reinforcements at RB, CB and TE, not WR and S. Thompson replaced Abberderis and Banjo with another WR and another S.

    Ted's works in mysterious ways.
    The DB they brought up worked as a slot corner in camp. Not sure why 6 WRs, even after counting Monty as RB, is the new standard.

    They signed new RB Davis and brought Jackson up from PS. That's two traditional plus Monty and Cobb.

    Cook is still on roster, out of his boot, and probably back in next couple of weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    The DB they brought up worked as a slot corner in camp. Not sure why 6 WRs, even after counting Monty as RB, is the new standard.

    They signed new RB Davis and brought Jackson up from PS. That's two traditional plus Monty and Cobb.

    Cook is still on roster, out of his boot, and probably back in next couple of weeks.
    Hyde and Burnett also play the "slot" corner. But just cos they line up at corner don't make them good corners. The two can't cover, yet Capers not only keeps playing them at corner, he also puts them in man coverage at tons a game. Pretty sure Pro Football Focus ranks these two at or near the bottom of their DB rankings. Pretty confident.

    Point is, Thompson has gotta sign a true corner. There ain't many shutdown corners on the streets of Baltimore, but a so-so corner who sucks less than what the Packers currently have playing would do wonders. Cro, Trumaine McBride, Tarell Brown, Javier Arenas, Cortez Allen, Ras-I Dowling, to name a few gangstas currently available.

    Regarding TE, Richard Rodgers is more fruitless than an apple tree on the North Pole. Belichick has Gronk but still traded for Bennett. With D-Rod, it's like the Packers O is operating on Windows 95. An upgrade is needed.
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