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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    If Shields isn't coming back, need a CB first.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you claiming Randall, Rollins, and Gunter were all good picks with a bright future within the last week or so? Why would they need to go cb first round if that were the case?
    Anyway....to me, this is clearly a BPA situation. We are so bereft of playmakers in so many spots. Honestly I think Cook would be a great pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you claiming Randall, Rollins, and Gunter were all good picks with a bright future within the last week or so? Why would they need to go cb first round if that were the case?
    Pb altered his thinking after I debunked his argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you claiming Randall, Rollins, and Gunter were all good picks with a bright future within the last week or so? Why would they need to go cb first round if that were the case?
    Anyway....to me, this is clearly a BPA situation. We are so bereft of playmakers in so many spots. Honestly I think Cook would be a great pick.
    You can't have 5 shut down CBs on the same team. You need good corners and Randall, Rollins and Gunter look to be that. Hopefully 1 steps up to be a shutdown corner. But with Shields gone you need a 2nd player of his quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you claiming Randall, Rollins, and Gunter were all good picks with a bright future within the last week or so? Why would they need to go cb first round if that were the case?
    Anyway....to me, this is clearly a BPA situation. We are so bereft of playmakers in so many spots. Honestly I think Cook would be a great pick.
    Yes, if we are picking this high you go with BPA. When you pick for need alone you end up reaching and regretting it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you claiming Randall, Rollins, and Gunter were all good picks with a bright future within the last week or so? Why would they need to go cb first round if that were the case?
    Anyway....to me, this is clearly a BPA situation. We are so bereft of playmakers in so many spots. Honestly I think Cook would be a great pick.
    I like their talent and think each one has at least one trait to like very much. I think they all can start and that Randall might become a fixture on defense. However, neither their development or health is guaranteed. Its probably unlikely all three hit just based on those probabilities alone.

    If Shields is done and Goodson is lost, you need depth and a chance to find talent. I not as sure about Dorleant as I am about those three.

    If WR and ILB have taught us anything, a return to health is one thing, a lack of depth is something else.
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    I would much rather grab Perine from Oklahoma than Fournette.

    We need a CB, OLB (in the mold of Von Miller), WR.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Fournette doesn't look like an NFL back to me. He looks like a college back. Cook looks like an NFL back to me, but he's going to go pretty high.

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    Honestly they really could just BPA this high pick. They need difference makers at most positions (CB, WR, LB, TE, RB). If they re-sign Cook they could probably get by without a TE upgrade, but any of the other positions, getting a stud will really help. They are going to have high picks, so they really need to nail this draft, especially the first three rounds.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientist View Post
    Honestly they really could just BPA this high pick. They need difference makers at most positions (CB, WR, LB, TE, RB). If they re-sign Cook they could probably get by without a TE upgrade, but any of the other positions, getting a stud will really help. They are going to have high picks, so they really need to nail this draft, especially the first three rounds.
    Agree completely. Trade Arod? Stop the crazy talk people.
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    If Lacy leaves, Dalvin Cook anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    If Lacy leaves, Dalvin Cook anyone?
    Yes please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    If Lacy leaves, Dalvin Cook anyone?
    I don't know if I want to invest a high 1st round pick into a RB when we have bigger issues to address. I suggest we resign Lacy - he isn't gonna cost a fortune - instead.

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    No. This offense will not work featuring a back like Minnesota or Tennessee do. I would not spend the pick on a player that will get 20 carries in tight games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    No. This offense will not work featuring a back like Minnesota or Tennessee do. I would not spend the pick on a player that will get 20 carries in tight games.
    He's not real big, so I don't know that he'd be a 300 carry guy. But he has breakaway speed, and is a good pass receiver. He also missed a game last year with a hamstring injury, so he's Packer People.

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    He's not real big, so I don't know that he'd be a 300 carry guy. But he has breakaway speed, and is a good pass receiver. He also missed a game last year with a hamstring injury, so he's Packer People.
    Then yes, you may proceed.
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    Cook would be a good pick. He can catch the ball, and would instantly add speed to a slow offense.

    It's amazing to me with all the 4.3 guys on O now, that they still look so sluggish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Cook would be a good pick. He can catch the ball, and would instantly add speed to a slow offense.

    It's amazing to me with all the 4.3 guys on O now, that they still look so sluggish.
    4.3 ain't what it use to be. In the old days it was ready, set, go and the coach started the clock on go. You had a reaction time before the athlete started running. Now the clock starts on first movement of the player and the use technology to know exactly when the finish line is crossed verses the coach hitting his stop watch bottom.

    The Olympics have started combatting this in the 100m & 200m races by having a delay time in when the gun goes off to when the runners move. If the runner moves too fast, he was anticipating the gun and getting an advantage by hoping to "cheat" the actually start.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    no running back. we're a passing team. needs to be the best wr available...or tight end (to take dickrods place).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    no running back. we're a passing team. needs to be the best wr available...or tight end (to take dickrods place).
    Packers could be in Mike Williams territory. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p.../mike-williams

    I'd prefer a pass rusher, but the top of the draft looks weak there.

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