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    Packers eligible for 2 compensatory picks, but only get one for Hayward as Tolzien is ranked one spot over the limit. 5th comp pick of 5th round.

    http://overthecap.com/projecting-201...y-draft-picks/
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Packers eligible for 2 compensatory picks, but only get one for Hayward as Tolzien is ranked one spot over the limit. 5th comp pick of 5th round.

    http://overthecap.com/projecting-201...y-draft-picks/
    seems low for a guy that signed a 5.1 million dollar a year deal

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    hate to curse the idea of TJ Watt being a Badger, but I'm on the wagon for GB to draft him...just iike...........Troy Vincent ....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by esoxx View Post
    He's rated around 10th in his position group from what I've seen. Packers will be able to draft him if they want him.
    I think he'll be a lot higher come draft time. He will be a first round pick I would think.

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    Getting T.J. Watt as a bargain pick - 2nd or 3rd round - would be great. I'm not so sure we don't need other things more in the first round - like maybe a cover Corner. If you think about it, though, several of our perceived needs have kinda melted away recently - RB, WR, TE, O Line, D Line, maybe even ILB. All of those things have begun to look pretty solid.
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    Bloodline is like speed, you can't teach it. I like Watt. He's got a great future in the NFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Getting T.J. Watt as a bargain pick - 2nd or 3rd round - would be great. I'm not so sure we don't need other things more in the first round - like maybe a cover Corner. If you think about it, though, several of our perceived needs have kinda melted away recently - RB, WR, TE, O Line, D Line, maybe even ILB. All of those things have begun to look pretty solid.
    There is no way he is lasting that long. I think there is about a 20% chance at best he lasts until the Packers pick. He is probably the #2 pass rusher. Tim Williams from Alabama is a great pass rusher - clearly more talented - but he has been in trouble and my gut feeling is his floor is a lot lower.

    TJ is a Watt, so you know he's going to work hard and be a good locker room guy. While his ceiling may be less high than a Tim Williams, I think his floor is a lot higher. I like him a lot.

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    Deshaun Watson is a keeper. He looked like Arod last night. At this point he looks to be the best among a strong group of QB prospects. Can you imagine the Giants or the Patriots somehow winding up with this kid to take over for Eli or Brady? Or how about Denver, Buffalo, the Jets, the Texans, hell even the Bears or the Vikings? IMO this guy could turn a good team lacking a strong QB into a real contender.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Reading the little puff piece on Jabrill Peppers

    A Heisman Trophy finalist in 2016, Peppers played both defensive back and linebacker in his three years at Michigan and also was a dynamic punt returner who led the Big Ten in punt return yards last season.
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    Jabill is a db who played lb in college, but there's no way he can do that in the pros

    I think he weights 205

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    Jabill is a db who played lb in college, but there's no way he can do that in the pros

    I think he weights 205

    Yeah, here in southeast Michigan many fans are all hot for the Loins to take Peppers. Go ahead, I say. He came in as a corner, then was switched to safety, supposedly because the team "needed" him there, but in truth he wasn't a very good corner. I don't think he's got that twitch and speed, nor does he have great length. Then this year they made him a kind of hybrid safety/linebacker. He ran some plays on offense, trick end-around kind of stuff mostly.

    To me, he's a bunch of hype. All show and not much go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Then this year they made him a kind of hybrid safety/linebacker.
    It seems to me those types of guys in college seldom seem to find a good fit in NFL defenses. As ST specialists, yes, but not on defense.

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    I would agree.

    As for the compensation pick, it seems as if the Packers inevitable end up with fifth-round picks, whether the guy signs with someone else with a huge contract but has a lousy year (Tramon Williams) or signs for an okay contract but has a very good year (Casey Hayward).
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    There is no way he is lasting that long. I think there is about a 20% chance at best he lasts until the Packers pick. He is probably the #2 pass rusher. Tim Williams from Alabama is a great pass rusher - clearly more talented - but he has been in trouble and my gut feeling is his floor is a lot lower.

    TJ is a Watt, so you know he's going to work hard and be a good locker room guy. While his ceiling may be less high than a Tim Williams, I think his floor is a lot higher. I like him a lot.
    On the other hand, T.J. has already had a couple serious injuries, and even J.J. is starting to be a little bit prone to injury at too young an age. Somebody said he is rated the 10th best pass rushing LB? I doubt he is the tenth picked, but I'd be surprised if he went before the Packers pick in the first round, and I wouldn't be shocked if he was still there in the second, especially with a bit of a trade up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    On the other hand, T.J. has already had a couple serious injuries, and even J.J. is starting to be a little bit prone to injury at too young an age. Somebody said he is rated the 10th best pass rushing LB? I doubt he is the tenth picked, but I'd be surprised if he went before the Packers pick in the first round, and I wouldn't be shocked if he was still there in the second, especially with a bit of a trade up.
    I didn't know about the injuries. I like Watt, but he looks kind of slender from the waist down. Maybe he's still young and developing and will put on some weight once he's in an NFL strength program.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Agree on Peppers, he's a SS prospect with limited coverage skills. He's going to help out vs the run, but he's going to be a liability vs the pass. Someone's going to draft him too high, IMO. He's a great athlete though with outstanding straight away speed (like Janis).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Agree on Peppers, he's a SS prospect with limited coverage skills. He's going to help out vs the run, but he's going to be a liability vs the pass. Someone's going to draft him too high, IMO. He's a great athlete though with outstanding straight away speed (like Janis).
    Peppers kind of reminds me of last year's phenom Miles Killebrew (sp). Same kind of hybrid player that was hyped up the draft board. Turned out to be a SS, not a super star.

    On the other hand, Su'a Cravens is the same body type and he's making out pretty good as an ILB.

    So, with all these guys, the proof is in the pudding.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 31m31 minutes ago
    This draft has the deepest/most talented group of CBs I've seen in several years. Also, loaded with edge rushers, safeties, RBs and TEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 31m31 minutes ago
    This draft has the deepest/most talented group of CBs I've seen in several years. Also, loaded with edge rushers, safeties, RBs and TEs.
    That quote was clearly made up by a Packer fan.
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