Seems to me that is a mighty big IF. They've played exactly one good game since their month-long impersonation of the Browns. I would like to see them string together a few solid showings before I start thinking about them running the table.Originally Posted by gbgary
true but you have to admit the o has looked much better the last few weeks. the osprey game will tell us a lot.
I hope you didn't take my post as suggesting that I think they will run the table, my intent was just to show that if they did they actually are in good shape to win the division, all things considered. If they do, MN is out of the picture. If they do, Detroit only has to lose one other game for GB to win the division. They don't need a lot of help, they control their own destiny, needing only one other team to beat Detroit.
I didn't think you were suggesting they would run the table, and I wasn't reacting only to your post. What I was hearing from several posters in this thread was some renewed optimism following the Eagles game. Nobody, except maybe for the quarterback, was talking about running the table after the Redskins gaem. Fine, I get that and I share the optimism to an extent--it's much easier to see the bright side of a team when they play a relatively complete game. But I also have a hard time believing that the problems that became apparent in November are now in the past. I hope they run the table but I think it is highly unlikely.
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I don't think that's controlling one's own destiny b/c when you need another team's help, fate's out of your hand regardless of what you do.
2010, the Packers didn't control their destiny til D-Jax took that improbable punt to the house to beat the Giants. Thompson REALLY do need to FedEx D-Jax a Super Bowl 45 ring.
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
I wrote they don't need a lot of help, I didn't say they don't need any help. I stated in several posts that they need the lions to lose one other game. Obviously, GB does not control that game result. However, I fully expect the lions to lose one other game, so that caused to to omit "mostly" in stating they control their own fate. I think my intent was clear to everyone, except perhaps you.
Expecting the Lions to lose a game, no matter how likely, doesn't change damn thing at this point in space-time: the Packers currently DO NOT control their destiny - thanks in large part to the 4 game losing streak (something Sherman's teams never experienced).
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
Did I not write in at least three different posts that they need someone else to beat the Lions?
Did I not say that my expectation that the Lions would lose another game caused me to omit "mostly" in stating they control their own fate?
Did I ever write that my expectation caused them to control their own destiny?
Since I repeated at least four times in three different posts that they need another team to beat the Lions, I submit that the intent of my post was clear to everyone except perhaps you, especially since you apparently also misread the post you quoted in your last message.
So, what does 2010 have to do with this???
You wrote, and I'll quote again: "(The Packers) control their own destiny, needing only one other team to beat Detroit."
That's like saying, "This is not Detroit man, this is the Super Bowl!", in a game that clearly wasn't the Super Bowl.
Stop contradicting yourself and see the error of your ways.
At this point, Packers DON'T control their own destiny. If Detriot goes 4-0 in the next 4 weeks, they will clinch the North no matter what the Packers do - in this case, the finale would be meaningless in terms of winning the division.
2010 is an example of how the Pack eventually ended up controlling its "own destiny"...Thanks, D-Jax!
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
Something else that Sherman's teams never experienced - winning an NFC Championship game.
Another thing that Sherman's teams never experienced - even playing in an NFC Championship game by winnnig a Division playoff game
Yet another thing that Sherman's teams never experienced - playing in a Super Bowl.
Still another thing never experienced by Sherman's teams - winning a Super Bowl.
MM's/TT's teams have done all of the above. I'm surprised you haven't pointed that out to us!?
This goof is still pining for Sherman - the guy who can't even get a job in D-3 today.
You might want to take another look at Shermy's last season. The first four games, to be specific.
But in Tank's world that was TT's year. Sherman kills the depth and talent as GM for years, hands a depleted team in cap trouble to TT, then blames TT for not being able to turn the team around top to bottom in 6 months.
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Or, you might want to look at weeks, 2, 3, 4 and 5 of the 2004 season, when Sherman was both GM and HC.
What does 2010 have to do with this year, or to this discussion?
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