We gonna run the table?
I would give us a 7.5% chance of running the table. But with each win those odds are gonna go up. If we were to make it through Dallas, the hopes would go way up!
We gonna run the table?
I would give us a 7.5% chance of running the table. But with each win those odds are gonna go up. If we were to make it through Dallas, the hopes would go way up!
Somebody's going to run the table. We have as good a shot as anybody because there is no great team and we have Rodgers. That pass defense is very weak, though. I'll see how next week turns out. Hopefully, the question won't be moot.
The signs of life for the pass rush give some hope to the backend. Gotta hope Gunter recovers.
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I don't think this defense is capable of delivering enough to make this team a title contender. The Packers will certainly be a tough out and someone that no one else really wants to face...but I just don't think this is their year when we lack a consistent running game. The spotty OL play over the last couple of weeks worries me as well.
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I agree with King. This defense is scary, and not in the Ravens/Bucs way. Obviously with Aaron running the show anything can happen and we could certainly run the whole table. But there are a lot of really good offenses in front of us. And this defense is scary, and not in the Ravens/Bucs way.
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when Rodgers said run the table he was talking about the regular season. all bets are off for the playoffs. our d just isn't up to that.
I still think the defense will come around, though not happy that Gunter is hurt.
My secret fear is that McCarthy and Rodgers STILL haven't leaned the lessons of the 21 games of offensive futility. The second half versus the Vikings was a tell tale sign.
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you aren't aloneOriginally Posted by pbmax
True that the Packers D is shaky and spotty, but nobody is better than Capers at compensating and creating turnovers, and also at designing defenses to stop at least the best aspect of a team's offense. And the Packers are now getting back to the ability to outscore just about any team. I wouldn't be surprised if we have a bad week and lose to somebody, but ask yourself, is there anybody at all you would actually expect the Packers to lose to? I don't see anybody. Running the table really could happen.
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It's all about da turnovers!
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Agree.
My biggest concerns are giants and Dallas. Otherwise sure they might run the table
Just curious, why is everybody afraid of the Giants? Has anybody here watched their offense in a game lately? They are terrible. The D is good and much improved but with JPP out they have gone back to above average. I think it is that there are no "great" teams in the NFC this year so when the Giants beat Dallas twice everyone elevates they to a "top" team.
I think this year more than any other the team that gets hot will win the NFC. Every team is beatable this year.
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I 110% agree with ThunderDan. No team looks hugely impressive right now. The Giants have OBJ which scares me a bit because I don't think we have anyone that can cover him, but other than that I don't fear them or the 'Boys. The Packers offense is humming right now and they are building big leads early. Seattle is going to be the tough match-up in the NFC Championship game.
Not a team in the NFC that can hang with the Pack after we dismantle the Kitties.
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Not afraid of this version of the Giants. They struggled at times with the Eagles.
I am simply haunted by facing them in the playoffs when the Packers should have won.
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I know the giants team a little. Not afraid. I know the Seahawks. Without earl Thomas they're a different team. Not afraid. Atlanta, Washington, Detroit.... Good teams, but not afraid. Dallas? Now that team has me baffled. I don't know that team very well. I don't know that QB. I know what that Rb is about. He's a beast. I don't know that defense or STs. They might be as good as they look. I just don't know. It might be a year too early for a young QB too. We'll see. We have a punchers chance against anyone. The only team I worry is a favorite in a game against the Packers is Dallas and that's mostly because I know very little about them.
Which 21 games of futility are you referring to PB? Starting with Denver last year? That seems like a stretch to me.
2015
Opp. - GB Pts. Yds.
CHI - 31 322
SEA - 27 361
KC - 38 448
SF - 17 362
STL - 24 322
SD - 27 370
DEN - 10 140
CAR - 29 402
DET - 16 372
MIN - 30 320
CHI - 13 365
DET - 27 313
DAL - 28 435
OAK - 30 293
ARI - 8 178
MIN - 13 350
Playoffs
WAS - 35 346
ARI - 20 386
2015 - 15th Scoring, 23rd Yards
2016
Opp. - GB Pts. Yds.
JAX - 27 294
MIN - 14 263
DET - 34 324
NYG - 23 406
DAL - 16 372
CHI - 26 406
ATL - 32 331
IND - 26 405
TEN - 25 402
WAS - 24 424
PHI - 27 387
HOU - 21 309
SEA - 38 330
CHI - 30 451
MIN - 38 348
2016 - 6th Scoring, 10th Yards
Granted, Rodgers had his career-worst stretch of games across these 2 years - (compared to the most prolific extended stretch in history), but I'm seeing 4 or 5 sporadic games of "offensive futility" - not 21. Also, "STILL" not having "learned lessons" from "offensive futility" would seem to imply repeated failure to finish games...
In the last 2 years, the Packers are:
- 16-1 when leading at Halftime (4th)
- 16-0 when leading going into the 4th Q (1st)
The Packers' identity is to get leads and finish games. Their (admittedly small sample) results, indicate they're among the best in the business at it. If you look at the full body of results over Rodgers' and/or McCarthy's careers (to enhance reliability/objectivity of sample size and avoid selection-set bias), that holds up in spades.
The offense has certainly contributed to a number of losses over the last couple years, but I'd say the extent has been borderline grossly exaggerated.
Last edited by vince; 12-28-2016 at 10:15 AM.
^ All points well made vince. The Offensive malaise has been overstated and the offense (especially Rodgers) have suffered as much from comparisons to themselves as from limited production. I do think some of the difference between 2015 and 2016 is late game scoring of meaningless TDs. For the best example, look at the 2015 game versus Carolina. While the offense had gotten on track, I saw a Carolina team try to take the air out of the ball.
So they are being graded on a high curve. But this team, as you state, lives and dies by its passing game and having a lead. McCarthy and his team do not specialize in late game heroics, grind it out/limited possession Neanderthal fests or world beating defense (thought they were close to this late last year and early this year).
So the passing game dip hurt them and their record.
I have come to believe there were many causes, but the offense by improvisation and holding the ball are still drawbacks against good defenses with pass rushes and in road games. Both these things happen regularly in the playoffs. And if McCathy prints up a hold the ball and look deep game plan in Seattle (or even in New York should that happen), I expect the offense to sputter early - though unlike last year, with Adams and a healthy Nelson, they might be healthy enough and talented enough to do it regardless of opponent.
What I had hoped to see was the continued emphasis on short passing to WR on the move. There is still hope. They have run it earlier this year, they are moving Nelson everywhere and they are using Allison, DickRod and Ripper/Michael to get different personnel on the field. So its possible. I would just love to see it this week on the road to confirm they remember the lesson.
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