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    Following the ST penalty on Seattle, the Atlanta offense looked completely unstoppable against what used to be the best defense in the league. Granted, it has slipped a little of late and especially so on the road. But still Sea > Dall on defense and Atl > Dall on offense. I would not be surprised to see Atlanta putting up 40 or more against Packers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    Following the ST penalty on Seattle, the Atlanta offense looked completely unstoppable against what used to be the best defense in the league. Granted, it has slipped a little of late and especially so on the road. But still Sea > Dall on defense and Atl > Dall on offense. I would not be surprised to see Atlanta putting up 40 or more against Packers.
    Seattle was absent Earl Thomas, who is the glue in their secondary, much as Morgan Burnett is in ours. Let's hope Burnett is back 100%. Plus, being a Georgia native and having played at Georgia Tech, Burnett might just have some extra incentive to do well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    Following the ST penalty on Seattle, the Atlanta offense looked completely unstoppable against what used to be the best defense in the league. Granted, it has slipped a little of late and especially so on the road. But still Sea > Dall on defense and Atl > Dall on offense.
    The Seattle defense on the road late in the year has not been better than the Dallas defense at home. The Seattle defense gave up 30+ points in 3 out of their last 6 games.

    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    I would not be surprised to see Atlanta putting up 40 or more against Packers.
    If Burnett and Rollins are out, that's possible. However, the Packers defense has been respectable late in the year when they're not having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find guys to play in the defensive secondary.

    Over the last 6 weeks the Packers have scored 38, 30, 38, 31, 38 and 34 points. All against respectable defenses. Falcons have averaged 34 PPG. If the Packers hold them to that, they have a chance.

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    Atlanta was a bad matchup for them. They don't have the offense anymore to take advantage of the Falcons weakness.
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    Burnett may be the biggest injury right now. The pass defense (HHCD included) performs much better with him on the field.
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    Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 22m22 minutes ago
    Rodgers: 1-17 as an underdog when GB allows 26+ points (first win: Sunday in Dallas)

    ATL has scored 28+ in all but one home game this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 22m22 minutes ago
    Rodgers: 1-17 as an underdog when GB allows 26+ points (first win: Sunday in Dallas)

    ATL has scored 28+ in all but one home game this year
    It's a hard row to hoe when you put up 45 points and lose.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 22m22 minutes ago
    Rodgers: 1-17 as an underdog when GB allows 26+ points (first win: Sunday in Dallas)

    ATL has scored 28+ in all but one home game this year
    Ryan's record in similar games:

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 22m22 minutes ago
    Rodgers: 1-17 as an underdog when GB allows 26+ points (first win: Sunday in Dallas)

    ATL has scored 28+ in all but one home game this year
    You're saying the Packers have been underdogs 18 times since Rodgers was the starting QB? That's hard to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    You're saying the Packers have been underdogs 18 times since Rodgers was the starting QB? That's hard to believe.
    The Packers have been underdogs 40 times since Rodgers was the starting QB, and they're 15-25 in those games. That includes games in which he did not play though, which I'll try to take out of consideration.
    Here's the link.

    2008 8 (2-6)
    2009 4 (2-2)
    2010 5 (3-2) (Rodgers didn't play vs. NWE - L)
    2011 1 (1-0) (Rodgers didn't play vs. DET - W)
    2012 3 (1-2)
    2013 6 (1-5) (Rodgers didn't play vs. PHI - L, NYG - L, DET - L, DAL - L)
    2014 4 (0-4)
    2015 4 (2-2)
    2016 5 (3-2)

    So that makes the Packers 14-20 in 34 games in which Rodgers started as the underdog, which ranks 7th best winning % in the league as the underdog.

    In that time only New England (21) has been an underdog fewer times than Green Bay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    The Packers have been underdogs 40 times since Rodgers was the starting QB, and they're 15-25 in those games. That includes games in which he did not play though, which I'll try to take out of consideration.
    Here's the link.

    2008 8 (2-6)
    2009 4 (2-2)
    2010 5 (3-2) (Rodgers didn't play vs. NWE - L)
    2011 1 (1-0) (Rodgers didn't play vs. DET - W)
    2012 3 (1-2)
    2013 6 (1-5) (Rodgers didn't play vs. PHI - L, NYG - L, DET - L)
    2014 4 (0-4)
    2015 4 (2-2)
    2016 5 (3-2)

    So that makes the Packers 14-21 in 35 games in which Rodgers started as the underdog, which ranks 7th best winning % in the league as the underdog.

    In that time only New England (21) has been an underdog fewer times than Green Bay.
    And let me do the selective cherry picking!

    Let's throw out ARod's first year as a starter as he was just learning the ropes. That puts him at 12-15 or almost 44.5%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    The Packers have been underdogs 40 times since Rodgers was the starting QB, and they're 15-25 in those games. That includes games in which he did not play though, which I'll try to take out of consideration.
    Here's the link.

    2008 8 (2-6)
    2009 4 (2-2)
    2010 5 (3-2) (Rodgers didn't play vs. NWE - L)
    2011 1 (1-0) (Rodgers didn't play vs. DET - W)
    2012 3 (1-2)
    2013 6 (1-5) (Rodgers didn't play vs. PHI - L, NYG - L, DET - L, DAL - L)
    2014 4 (0-4)
    2015 4 (2-2)
    2016 5 (3-2)

    So that makes the Packers 14-20 in 34 games in which Rodgers started as the underdog, which ranks 7th best winning % in the league as the underdog.

    In that time only New England (21) has been an underdog fewer times than Green Bay.
    I meant 18 times in the playoffs was heard to believe, but either way, these numbers are surprising - I'm not questioning your stats, just that I'm shocked by them.
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    to me the dal game was 50/50 depending on when you asked me. it rode on who's d would play best. it turned out to be the last team with the ball wins.

    this game doesn't quite feel the same to me. it might come down to last team with the ball but...i've got a feeling the playoff run might come to an end...60/40.

    either way...after last week, living HERE, my season is pretty much made. i won't be too disappointed...unless we get totally screwed by the refs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Another valuable Free Agent

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    #Packers sign CB Bené Benwikere to the practice squad.

    Roster moves: http://pckrs.com/m4l4
    Thanks to Julio Jones, the Panthers' Bene Benwikere was the NFL's worst player in Week 4

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    Here are some numbers behind the Rodgers Ryan thing Kacsmar is tweeting about.

    Packers had 2 OT in those underdog games. Falcons 3.

    Average Score in Packers games: 23.7 to 34.9

    Average Score in Falcons games: 23.5 to 32.1

    Rodgers outscores Ryan in these games (barely), but his defense surrenders more points. Nearly 3 points is a lot in NFL averages.

    Rodgers has made 15 playoff starts, 135 reg season starts for total of 150. With 2 more games, he has been an underdog with a defense allowing 26+ points 10 less times than Ryan. When it happens, his defense allows 35 points.

    Ryan has made 6 playoff starts, 142 reg season starts for total of 148. With 2 fewer games, Ryan has been an underdog with a D allowing 26+ points 10 more times and has 5 more wins to show for it (3 of them this year). When it happens, his D allows 32 points.
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    As time goes on, I like our chances more and more. AR is going to have unlimited time against a limited pass rush. We're going to run up the score. I keep hoping for a solid day from our CBs and I do think we have the players on roster to win. We have a shot. Man, i want a SB run this year!!!

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