Gilbert and Patrick had promising camps as I recall and Price would seem to have a good shot at making the roster next year with a productive offseason.Originally Posted by Joemailman
Gilbert and Patrick had promising camps as I recall and Price would seem to have a good shot at making the roster next year with a productive offseason.
Why is it his job to show other people, much less those undergoing medical treatment, how to carry a football?
"You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
You're misreading as usual, it's show patients carrying the football: those people undergoing medical treatment are already toting the rock, you numbskull.
In regards to Matthews:
There are two years left on his contract.
His 2017 salary will be $15.2M (with $4.1M in dead cap).
His 2018 salary will be $11.4M with no dead cap money.
He will be 31 this next season. I saw on ESPN, that Matthews is one of the 4 highest paid LB's in the NFL (this came up on the Jamie Collins LB Browns, who just signed a new contract).
I think the Packers should let it ride for 2017, but all bets are off for 2018 depending on his performance (and health) this next season.
I agree. He had his moments this season and is still a dominating player if he can just stay reasonably healthy. The cap keeps going up, and given Ted's cheapness, we aren't and probably won't even come close to the upper limit. Arguably, he's the second best player on the team - still - and the only real star quality one other than Aaron Rodgers.
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He averaged 2 tackles a game and 5 sacks. If he is the second best player on the Packers roster they are in more trouble than I thought. He cannot stay reasonably healthy he has proved that throughout his career. Watch the film and stop dreaming about his hair.
Yup, over rated very overpaid diva.
I attribute that to the injuries. He made several major game changing plays even in his diminished condition; He plays better ILB than anybody else who played there; If (and I agree it's a big "if") he can stay healthy, he's still damn good. Who else on the team rises far enough above mediocrity to be a star player - other than Rodgers, of course?
And I absolutely HATE faggy long hair on guys - I'll overlook it on him if he gets back to playing good enough.
What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
I don't even think he is second best on defence. Give be Perry and Burnett over him as an OLB. If he got transition inside to mlb, perhaps he is second best on d.
Regarding the original posts (thanks Nutz for posting them), I'd certainly keep Christine Michael. He should be fairly cheap, and we can use a one cut speed back as an alternative to Montgomery. As for his being dumb as a rock, I kinda doubt that's true. Hopefully with camp and the preseason to learn, he can seem less that way. I also have a very high opinion of Ripkowski despite the blunder last Sunday. I'd take either him or Michael over Lacy even if the cost were the same, which it wouldn't be IMO.
I'd give Cook more than two stars. He, too, should be a lot better with a full camp and preseason to get used to things. You thought T.J. Lang's play "dipped" this season? I thought he was one step above crap prior to this season, and he rose to fairly decent this year. I'd keep him if it doesn't take breaking the bank - which it shouldn't. I think they are gonna keep Cobb too. He's an excellent slot receiver when he's healthy, and I suspect Rodgers lobbies to keep him. I wouldn't be surprised if we keep all of the wideouts we have this season. Only Trevor Davis seems to be as low as 50/50. I STILL think Janis is gonna break out and be a star in this league - hopefully for the Packers.
I pretty much agree with all you posted on Defense - except maybe Randall being solid, and given Ted's tendency to favor his draft picks, I suppose he will stay. Gunter is way better than him or Rollins. I also have hope for Hawkins. A quality free agent Corner would do wonders for this team - moving everybody else down one spot. I don't suppose it would ever happen, but I'd like to see Janis get a try at Corner - if they're just gonna let him go to waste on offense anyway.
What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
When did Michael ever as a Packer only do one cut and hit the hole? Seriously when?
The guy makes 3 cuts minimum on the same play every time.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
This article and the video contained within it pretty well covers it all:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/after-n...m_campaign=nfl
Comment woodbuck27:
I would like to see TT be more aggressive this off season to improve the Packer Defence and to ensure a better running game.
1) We need to see a change in philosophy and Free Agency and Ted Thompson's attitude to focus on Draft and Development.
2) We need to see a huge improvement in Pass Protection. This Packer team was deplorable trying to defend the pass and finishing (was it?) 31st in the NFL in that category.
Will Ted Thompson and the Packer Coaching staff really believe that the weakness at The CB position will magically be fixed with more experience? The Packers flat out need more talented CB's and to count on the likes of a LaDarius Gunter isn't acceptable.
3) The Packers need to find a better pass rush.
No team can rise to be a serious Super Bowl Contender without a solid Secondary and a good pass rush. The Green Bay Packers are sadly deficient in both of these defensive areas.
4) We need help for Aaron Rodgers and the offence in terms of a focus on improving the Running Game. Will we hear at the end of next season: Well we hoped that Eddie Lacy would produce? Packer GM Ted Thompson cannot ignore what he doesn't have in the running game. The team needs better depth at RB.
5) I thought I read that there would be more CAP money next season but we need to see Ted Thompson release anyone on the Roster that isn't producing. The " hoo hum, let's wait and see " attitude has to change. It is time to stop thinking and do ...more doing. For all that won't kill you Ted...GO FOR IT !
6) I want to see a focus on upgrade - upgrade - upgrade.
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Nutz, great post my brotha.
Ya put some great work in that baby.
Oh yeah, you and Skin, get fucked in a very friendly fashion.
All these posts point up some TOUGH off-season decisions.
Pep, Mathews, buy an FA corner (we all know what the answer will be there) TJ, Bulaga (ain't he FA too?), DLine, Lacy, etc.
I'd hate to be in the big chair on any of these tough calls, let alone the whole gamut of this.
Look forward to getting into arguments over the whole thing, Nutz.
The problem is even IF tight pockets Teddy would sign a FA corner. There just isn't much available this year.
The great news is this draft is very deep with quality CBs.
The biggest problem with that is they take a few years to develop. Then in GB another few years to finally have a healthy season. By that time Rodgers will be retired and coming out of the closet
Not always. Shields and Hayward were quite good as rookies. Randall and Rollins were probably more in the line of developmental picks. Randall because he was making a switch from Safety to Corner. Rollins because he only played 1 year of college football.The biggest problem with that is they take a few years to develop. Then in GB another few years to finally have a healthy season. By that time Rodgers will be retired and coming out of the closet
Desmond King from Iowa is probably the most NFL ready. He would be available in the late 1st round. He isn't the most dynamic athlete but he is proven, and a ball hawk in college.
There are free agents available at a young age, or older guys like Leon Hall available.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/cornerback/
this a list of available free agents across the league
Free agent wish list
Lawrence Timmons ILB from Pittsburgh
He is 30 years old but I imagine he has 2/3 good years left
Calias Campell DE from Arizona
30 years old could be an upgrade in the pass rush
Glenn Dorsey DT from San Fran
31 years old, could offer another body in run defense, and he will be relatively cheap
Trumain Johnson CB from the Rams
27 years old, big cornerback that will cost between 10 and 13 million a season
Stephon Gilmore from Buffalo
26 years old ball hawking cornerback. He is over 6 feet tall and he will not be hit with the franchise tag. He will cost about the same as Johnson
Jermaine Gresham TE from Arizona
Martellus Bennett TE from the Pats
Good blocker and receiver, he would be an upgrade over Rodgers, and even a better option than Cooks.
Chris Baker DE from Washington
6-2 320 pounds 29 years old, would beef up the middle of the packers defense. He has the size and ability to play either position on the defensive line. He would be a mid to high priced free agent some where between 5 to 8 million a year.
Jabaal Sheard DE from Pats
Smaller frame at only 265 pounds, played about half the snaps on defense for the Patriots. He is probably going to command 8 million on the free agent market which might be more than what the Packers are looking to pay for part time player.
The more I look at the available free agents the Packers need to keep Nick Perry, and if the price is right 1-3 million resign Julius Peppers. I still say the Packers are better off cutting or restructuring Clay Matthews and spending his money else where, but he still has that burst off the line that everyone was so enamored with Atlanta's defense.
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