Packers' Off Season Moves and 2017 Roster

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so, with lang officially gone, we have almost 30 million to spend, and really only lacy that we could still bring back

begin the spending on the defense

[yetisnowman]

Remember when the apologist's narrative was that we had to be frugal the last few seasons because we had to keep something in the kitty to re-sign our o-line? Now in less than a year...Sitton, Lang, Tretter....all gone. Hopefully Ted will continue to add pieces on defense to make up for these losses.

[BZnDallas]

Remember when the apologist's narrative was that we had to be frugal the last few seasons because we had to keep something in the kitty to re-sign our o-line? Now in less than a year...Sitton, Lang, Tretter....all gone. Hopefully Ted will continue to add pieces on defense to make up for these losses.

Didn't 2 tackles get new deals? Bulaga and Bahk and now Barclay? Maybe he just wants B last names? Or maybe Linsley getting some coin soon ups the difference 4-3 and TT really just uses money in the kitty to improve the team where he thinks its needed? Like Perry, Bennett, Kendrick to go along with the Oline. I think its silly to think TT is frugal so he can zero in on 1 position to improve. With arguably the best QB in football, i'd prefer to pay my tackles more money than my guards. Maybe thats an apologists way of thinking, but AR can see better in front of him, not both sides of him.

[yetisnowman]

Didn't 2 tackles get new deals? Bulaga and Bahk and now Barclay? Maybe he just wants B last names? Or maybe Linsley getting some coin soon ups the difference 4-3 and TT really just uses money in the kitty to improve the team where he thinks its needed? Like Perry, Bennett, Kendrick to go along with the Oline. I think its silly to think TT is frugal so he can zero in on 1 position to improve. With arguably the best QB in football, i'd prefer to pay my tackles more money than my guards. Maybe thats an apologists way of thinking, but AR can see better in front of him, not both sides of him.

Over the last few years, re-signing guys like Lang and Sitton were major talking points for people ok with us being inactive in free agency. I'm very happy with our tackles being secure, but if this off-season ends up with us keeping Perry, trading Cook for Bennett/Kendicks and losing Lang, Tretter, Hyde, Shields, Starks, Lacy thats sort of frustrating. Now a few moves could turn all that around.

[Joemailman]

Remember when the apologist's narrative was that we had to be frugal the last few seasons because we had to keep something in the kitty to re-sign our o-line? Now in less than a year...Sitton, Lang, Tretter....all gone. Hopefully Ted will continue to add pieces on defense to make up for these losses.

Or maybe he'll just keep drafting really good offensive linemen in the middle rounds. Sitton 4th round, Lang 4th round, Tretter 4th round, Bakhtiari 4th round, Linsley 5th round etc.

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Or maybe he'll just keep drafting really good offensive linemen in the middle rounds. Sitton 4th round, Lang 4th round, Tretter 4th round, Bakhtiari 4th round, Linsley 5th round etc.

by my count we need 2 of those guys

i'm assuming spriggs is gonna start somewhere

so we need rookies that can step in right away and be a backup and probably start more then a few games because of injuries at G/T and another for C/G

and no, fucking barclay doesn't fit either of those roles imo

[smuggler]

Or maybe he'll just keep drafting really good offensive linemen in the middle rounds. Sitton 4th round, Lang 4th round, Tretter 4th round, Bakhtiari 4th round, Linsley 5th round etc.

Boom. Guards are not as important as tackles and we still only have one starter slot to fill, with Spriggs waiting in the wings.

[pbmax]

Remember when the apologist's narrative was that we had to be frugal the last few seasons because we had to keep something in the kitty to re-sign our o-line? Now in less than a year...Sitton, Lang, Tretter....all gone. Hopefully Ted will continue to add pieces on defense to make up for these losses.

Yeah, I forgot there are only 3 paying O line positions. 2 Guards and backup Center.

[yetisnowman]

Yeah, I forgot there are only 3 paying O line positions. 2 Guards and backup Center.

Are you saying over the years Sitton and Lang were not used as examples of people we needed to save financial room for?

[pbmax]

Are you saying over the years Sitton and Lang were not used as examples of people we needed to save financial room for?

Sure. A decent franchise will always have some flexibility to sign their own to new deals and not mortgage the future entirely.

But circumstances change. Both were hampered by injuries and Sitton may have been a pain in his coaches behind. So between age, injury history and market value, you adjust. You put a price of $7 mil per year on Lang, knowing that might be the low end and if he goes elsewhere, you spend money elsewhere.

You give Sitton's money to your young left tackle and make it possible to sign both your OLB and others.

Every dime they did not spend on past FAs and new contracts during those Guards second contracts is available to them this year. And it might get spent yet this offseason.

[SMBASS]

Personally I don't ever see Spriggs playing guard and I'm on the fence about Murphy playing inside. I wouldn't move Bulaga simply because you don't screw around with moving a competent, upper tier right tackle to play guard. Just find a decent guard whether it's, Patrick, a FA, or a draft pick and plug them into the line. Leave the other 4 components, (Linsley, Taylor, Bulaga, and Bak) alone and find 1 decent/good inside guy. Plus we already have 2 new TE's that have to get into the O-Line mix this year. I hate playing musical chairs with the O-line because it's the damn franchise you're trying to protect. Pressure from the inside is just as likely to get AR killed as pressure from the outside.

[Joemailman]

Personally I don't ever see Spriggs playing guard and I'm on the fence about Murphy playing inside. I wouldn't move Bulaga simply because you don't screw around with moving a competent, upper tier right tackle to play guard. Just find a decent guard whether it's, Patrick, a FA, or a draft pick and plug them into the line. Leave the other 4 components, (Linsley, Taylor, Bulaga, and Bak) alone and find 1 decent/good inside guy. Plus we already have 2 new TE's that have to get into the O-Line mix this year. I hate playing musical chairs with the O-line because it's the damn franchise you're trying to protect. Pressure from the inside is just as likely to get AR killed as pressure from the outside.

I agree Spriggs isn't a Guard. I'd be reluctant to move Bulaga inside simply because he's coming off maybe his best year. The only reason you would do it is is you feel that Spriggs is definitely one of your top 5 O-Linemen, and you want tp get your top 5 on the field. I think they'll leave Bulaga at RT, and RG will be the big battle of training camp. I know the coaching staff likes Patrick. I think Murphy has the skill set to play Guard if he gets a little stronger. And I expect TT to draft at least 1 O-Lineman.

[Upnorth]

So we are loosing a 30 year old guard and a backup centre. Last season to drafted their replacementS with spriggs and the other one whose name escapes me. Say we get a mid round ol and Rb. Still can focus the draft on cb, nt and mlb...

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lacy got out of seattle without signing, he's on his way to green bay to talk with TT

[Teamcheez1]

lacy got out of seattle without signing, he's on his way to green bay to talk with TT

If Lacy was all that, he wouldn't have gotten out of Seattle and Minny without a contract. Not saying we shouldn't resign him, but the league is not banging his door down in free agency.

[pbmax]

lacy got out of seattle without signing, he's on his way to green bay to talk with TT

He is also out of Minnesota and headed to GB.

[Rutnstrut]

Funny how some of you guys have no idea how big of a deal continuity is on the o-line. Sure just plug anyone in at guard, they don't need ay experience or depth. That is until shuffling guys all over gets Rodgers hurt. Because let's face it, if Rodgers goes down for any significant amount of time, this team is toast. Stubby is not a good enough coach to win a lot of games without Rodgers.

[BZnDallas]

Funny how some of you guys have no idea how big of a deal continuity is on the o-line. Sure just plug anyone in at guard, they don't need ay experience or depth. That is until shuffling guys all over gets Rodgers hurt. Because let's face it, if Rodgers goes down for any significant amount of time, this team is toast. Stubby is not a good enough coach to win a lot of games without Rodgers.

We ALL understand and are aware of what happens if AR goes down Rut. See in this sport, there is only so much money to spend. Its called a salary cap. That means you can't keep everyone you want. At some point you have to let players walk. Think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody here that didn't like Lang. The most of us realize its part of the game to lose players you like. Even the vaunted Cowboy line is having to make changes this off season. Oh no! The continuity! We'll all get over it, will you?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Wist is back? He disappeared at the end of that 8 game winning streak and the victory over Dallas.

[wist43]

Wist is back? He disappeared at the end of that 8 game winning streak and the victory over Dallas.

"Disappeared" long before that... changed jobs, and our 3rd kid is wearing me out now. Simply don't have time to do much of anything but work and tend to the family. Things are settling out a little bit though, so maybe I can watch a little football this year...

Bought some new golf clubs... my brother laughed and said I was waaaayyyyy too optimistic, lol...