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    hows this for thinking outside the box

    desean jackson would give us the speed and deep threat that a-rod and TT wish they had, and would probably cost 8 mill a year

    just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upnorth View Post
    If so that is reasonable imo. And worth it
    9 a year is a lot for what is basically a one year wonder, this is the very definition of a guy picking up his game for a contract year

    what happens when he gets paid, does he start missing games again for little nagging injuries?

    spotrac has a cool new feature BTW, guessing guys market values, they list perry at 8.5 million a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Cameron Wake signs new 2 year 18 million deal with Dolphins. Is this what it will cost to sign Perry?
    I've been guessing 8.5 to 9.5 million per year. Jones may cost 4.5 to 5.5 million. Lang won't sign for less than he's already getting. Cook will be at least 6 million per year.

    I think we'll struggle to sign Perry or Lacy. They may both look at offers from other teams. My guess is that anybody from our own team that we really want will be pretty expensive and will leave us with very little room to sign outside free agents. Maybe a mid-priced guy later in the free agent season.

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    theres always ways of getting more money, for instance

    we have a WR that will count over 12.5 million against the cap this year who hasn't come close to 1000 yards the last 2 seasons. you could get a top teir free agent CB for that. what would help the team more, a shut down corner, or a WR that averages less the 50 yards per game?

    or a OLB that will count over 15 million this year, who has never had more then 66 tackles in a year (he had 24 this year, 24 FFS) and hasn't come close to double digit sacks since 2014. you could probably take that money and go out and get an ILB AND an OLB that could both do as mush as he does

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    one big thing perry has going for him staying in green bay was that TT gave him a one year "prove it" deal

    and i think we can all agree, he proved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    9 a year is a lot for what is basically a one year wonder, this is the very definition of a guy picking up his game for a contract year

    what happens when he gets paid, does he start missing games again for little nagging injuries?

    spotrac has a cool new feature BTW, guessing guys market values, they list perry at 8.5 million a year
    Perry is the definition of a guy who was pretty damn good once he was healthy.

    Perry has played through injuries before even though they limited his effectiveness in 2014-2015. He's only missed 5 games over the last 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    spotrac has a cool new feature BTW, guessing guys market values, they list perry at 8.5 million a year
    If those numbers are close, I think they sign Perry, Cook and Lacy. Not sure what they do about Tretter vs. Lang.

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    don't know where he gets his info...
    Check out @MySportsUpdate's Tweet: https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/833351959478431744?s=09
    Report: Packers, Colts and Ravens are interested in trading for Eagles DE Connor Barwin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    From here?:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...multiple-teams

    fseason.

    Mark Eckel of NJ Advance Media reported Saturday the Green Bay Packers, Baltimore Ravens and Indianapolis Colts are among the potential landing spots if the Eagles front office decides to move on from the lineman, either through trade or release.

    Barwin is coming off his worst season since joining Philadelphia in 2013. He registered just 34 combined tackles, five sacks and one forced fumble across 16 games. The production was a far cry from the 14.5 sacks he put up during the 2014 campaign.


    The drop in his level of impact combined with a $8.35 million cap hit for 2017 raised questions about his future with the Eagles. The team could release him and leave just $600,000 in dead cap space for next season, according to Spotrac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Perry is the definition of a guy who was pretty damn good once he was healthy.

    Perry has played through injuries before even though they limited his effectiveness in 2014-2015. He's only missed 5 games over the last 3 years.
    Injuries are one problem. Lack of backup is another (unless Elliot makes a year 3 jump and Holy Fackrell makes a Year 2 jump).

    But the oddest question is one I head from Steve True last week. He claims Perry disappeared when Matthews was out this year (guessing hamstring, but perhaps meant after shoulder injury as well). Perry is not Lawrence Taylor and he doesn't dominate week in and week out with pressure, but I did not sense he disappeared this year until his hand injury.

    Anyone else want to backup that disappear claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    This is ALL agent based. So take it with grain of salt. This report doesn't even bother to claim team is shopping him yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Injuries are one problem. Lack of backup is another (unless Elliot makes a year 3 jump and Holy Fackrell makes a Year 2 jump).

    But the oddest question is one I head from Steve True last week. He claims Perry disappeared when Matthews was out this year (guessing hamstring, but perhaps meant after shoulder injury as well). Perry is not Lawrence Taylor and he doesn't dominate week in and week out with pressure, but I did not sense he disappeared this year until his hand injury.

    Anyone else want to backup that disappear claim?
    Don't remember, but looking at the stats, he had 1 quiet game and 2 decent games. He only had a half a sack for the 3 games, so maybe that's the reason for the "disappear" claim.

    His line for the 3 games:

    Atlanta: 1 tackle, 1 pass defensed
    Indy: 1 tackle, 3 assists, 0.5 sacks
    Tennessee: 3 tackles, 3 assists

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Injuries are one problem. Lack of backup is another (unless Elliot makes a year 3 jump and Holy Fackrell makes a Year 2 jump).

    But the oddest question is one I head from Steve True last week. He claims Perry disappeared when Matthews was out this year (guessing hamstring, but perhaps meant after shoulder injury as well). Perry is not Lawrence Taylor and he doesn't dominate week in and week out with pressure, but I did not sense he disappeared this year until his hand injury.

    Anyone else want to backup that disappear claim?
    i don't think clay commands a double team any more, so i have no clue why perry wouldn't play the same with him out

    none of these d-line or linebacks could dominate full games like reggie did, and have impacts on a lot of the plays. these guys might make 15-20 big plays a year, and the OLB's don't make a ton of tackles.

    maybe he was just pulling a clay or a peppers and not making any plays for a few games

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    Clay does get double teamed though. He also spends time blitzing in the middle, which gives offenses something else to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Clay does get double teamed though. He also spends time blitzing in the middle, which gives offenses something else to worry about.
    According to McGinn, he was double-teamed 22.6% of the time. It certainly is possible Perry started drawing double teams with Clay out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    hows this for thinking outside the box

    desean jackson would give us the speed and deep threat that a-rod and TT wish they had, and would probably cost 8 mill a year

    just a thought
    I'd give Cobb's money to DeSean - speed tends to not deteriorate with age, and I think he would be an upgrade - maybe a major upgrade. Not to pick at a scab or anything hahahaha, but this is the kind of thing a lot of GMs would really consider. I doubt, however, Ted gives it a serious thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Injuries are one problem. Lack of backup is another (unless Elliot makes a year 3 jump and Holy Fackrell makes a Year 2 jump).

    But the oddest question is one I head from Steve True last week. He claims Perry disappeared when Matthews was out this year (guessing hamstring, but perhaps meant after shoulder injury as well). Perry is not Lawrence Taylor and he doesn't dominate week in and week out with pressure, but I did not sense he disappeared this year until his hand injury.

    Anyone else want to backup that disappear claim?

    It also was the same time that Perry broke his fucking hand.

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    If they cut or trade Cobb, 6.5 million of his remaining signing bonus hits the cap. It would probably cost 10 million per year to sign Jackson. With Jordy having a cap hit of 11.5 million, that would be an awful lot of your cap tied up in the WR position. Won't and shouldn't happen. They'll hope Trevor Davis can contribute more in his 2nd year, and maybe draft speed at WR. Besides, there was nothing wrong with the Packers passing game once they started getting production from Cook at TE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    It also was the same time that Perry broke his fucking hand.
    No, Perry's hand injury occurred in December. Matthews missed games in Oct.-Nov.

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