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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    9 a year is a lot for what is basically a one year wonder, this is the very definition of a guy picking up his game for a contract year

    what happens when he gets paid, does he start missing games again for little nagging injuries?

    spotrac has a cool new feature BTW, guessing guys market values, they list perry at 8.5 million a year
    Perry is the definition of a guy who was pretty damn good once he was healthy.

    Perry has played through injuries before even though they limited his effectiveness in 2014-2015. He's only missed 5 games over the last 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Perry is the definition of a guy who was pretty damn good once he was healthy.

    Perry has played through injuries before even though they limited his effectiveness in 2014-2015. He's only missed 5 games over the last 3 years.
    Injuries are one problem. Lack of backup is another (unless Elliot makes a year 3 jump and Holy Fackrell makes a Year 2 jump).

    But the oddest question is one I head from Steve True last week. He claims Perry disappeared when Matthews was out this year (guessing hamstring, but perhaps meant after shoulder injury as well). Perry is not Lawrence Taylor and he doesn't dominate week in and week out with pressure, but I did not sense he disappeared this year until his hand injury.

    Anyone else want to backup that disappear claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    spotrac has a cool new feature BTW, guessing guys market values, they list perry at 8.5 million a year
    If those numbers are close, I think they sign Perry, Cook and Lacy. Not sure what they do about Tretter vs. Lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Cameron Wake signs new 2 year 18 million deal with Dolphins. Is this what it will cost to sign Perry?
    I've been guessing 8.5 to 9.5 million per year. Jones may cost 4.5 to 5.5 million. Lang won't sign for less than he's already getting. Cook will be at least 6 million per year.

    I think we'll struggle to sign Perry or Lacy. They may both look at offers from other teams. My guess is that anybody from our own team that we really want will be pretty expensive and will leave us with very little room to sign outside free agents. Maybe a mid-priced guy later in the free agent season.

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    hows this for thinking outside the box

    desean jackson would give us the speed and deep threat that a-rod and TT wish they had, and would probably cost 8 mill a year

    just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    hows this for thinking outside the box

    desean jackson would give us the speed and deep threat that a-rod and TT wish they had, and would probably cost 8 mill a year

    just a thought
    I'd give Cobb's money to DeSean - speed tends to not deteriorate with age, and I think he would be an upgrade - maybe a major upgrade. Not to pick at a scab or anything hahahaha, but this is the kind of thing a lot of GMs would really consider. I doubt, however, Ted gives it a serious thought.
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    theres always ways of getting more money, for instance

    we have a WR that will count over 12.5 million against the cap this year who hasn't come close to 1000 yards the last 2 seasons. you could get a top teir free agent CB for that. what would help the team more, a shut down corner, or a WR that averages less the 50 yards per game?

    or a OLB that will count over 15 million this year, who has never had more then 66 tackles in a year (he had 24 this year, 24 FFS) and hasn't come close to double digit sacks since 2014. you could probably take that money and go out and get an ILB AND an OLB that could both do as mush as he does

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    one big thing perry has going for him staying in green bay was that TT gave him a one year "prove it" deal

    and i think we can all agree, he proved it.

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    don't know where he gets his info...
    Check out @MySportsUpdate's Tweet: https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/833351959478431744?s=09
    Report: Packers, Colts and Ravens are interested in trading for Eagles DE Connor Barwin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    From here?:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...multiple-teams

    fseason.

    Mark Eckel of NJ Advance Media reported Saturday the Green Bay Packers, Baltimore Ravens and Indianapolis Colts are among the potential landing spots if the Eagles front office decides to move on from the lineman, either through trade or release.

    Barwin is coming off his worst season since joining Philadelphia in 2013. He registered just 34 combined tackles, five sacks and one forced fumble across 16 games. The production was a far cry from the 14.5 sacks he put up during the 2014 campaign.


    The drop in his level of impact combined with a $8.35 million cap hit for 2017 raised questions about his future with the Eagles. The team could release him and leave just $600,000 in dead cap space for next season, according to Spotrac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    This is ALL agent based. So take it with grain of salt. This report doesn't even bother to claim team is shopping him yet.
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    Clay does get double teamed though. He also spends time blitzing in the middle, which gives offenses something else to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Clay does get double teamed though. He also spends time blitzing in the middle, which gives offenses something else to worry about.
    According to McGinn, he was double-teamed 22.6% of the time. It certainly is possible Perry started drawing double teams with Clay out.

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    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 18m18 minutes ago
    Former #Dolphins DT Earl Mitchell begins his free agent tour today, spending time with #Seahawks. On Tuesday/Wednedsay, he’s with the #49ers
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    If they cut or trade Cobb, 6.5 million of his remaining signing bonus hits the cap. It would probably cost 10 million per year to sign Jackson. With Jordy having a cap hit of 11.5 million, that would be an awful lot of your cap tied up in the WR position. Won't and shouldn't happen. They'll hope Trevor Davis can contribute more in his 2nd year, and maybe draft speed at WR. Besides, there was nothing wrong with the Packers passing game once they started getting production from Cook at TE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    If they cut or trade Cobb, 6.5 million of his remaining signing bonus hits the cap. It would probably cost 10 million per year to sign Jackson. With Jordy having a cap hit of 11.5 million, that would be an awful lot of your cap tied up in the WR position. Won't and shouldn't happen. They'll hope Trevor Davis can contribute more in his 2nd year, and maybe draft speed at WR. Besides, there was nothing wrong with the Packers passing game once they started getting production from Cook at TE.
    yeah, cause 27 million is so much more then 24.2 million with cobb and nelson both on the roster

    and there was nothing wrong with the passing game other then cobb not adding much of anything to it, and the lack of a deep threat that a-rod and M3 keep thinking they have and try and use on many of the passing plays

    a reliable deep threat guy would just open everything up so much for us imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    yeah, cause 27 million is so much more then 24.2 million with cobb and nelson both on the roster

    and there was nothing wrong with the passing game other then cobb not adding much of anything to it, and the lack of a deep threat that a-rod and M3 keep thinking they have and try and use on many of the passing plays

    a reliable deep threat guy would just open everything up so much for us imo
    I think a strong inside presence would open up the long game more than vise versa. Maybe Cook resigning and having a year in the system makes that happen.

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    Demovsky on linebackers: http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-p...de-and-outside

    1. Matthews might be best suited to inside. McCarthy seems committed to move him around.
    2. Perry needs to come back, for his contributions and ...
    3. Peppers appears to be done. However, with limited snaps early in season, Peppers still got 8.5 sacks.
    4. Jones gone
    5. Thomas (shedding blocks), Ryan (big plays) and Martinez (coverage) all have holes. All would be helped by Matthews in middle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Demovsky on linebackers: http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-p...de-and-outside

    1. Matthews might be best suited to inside. McCarthy seems committed to move him around.
    2. Perry needs to come back, for his contributions and ...
    3. Peppers appears to be done. However, with limited snaps early in season, Peppers still got 8.5 sacks.
    4. Jones gone
    5. Thomas (shedding blocks), Ryan (big plays) and Martinez (coverage) all have holes. All would be helped by Matthews in middle.
    Matthews is a pass rusher. He is a poor tackler, poor in coverage, and terrible at taking on blocks. If the Packers want to use him as a pass rusher from the inside linebacker position so be it but playing him there on 1st and 2nd down as a run stopper or to drop in coverage is a mistake. The Packers are not going to cut him because of the lack of depth and quality at the OLB position. They are stuck paying him all that scratch for the foreseeable future. He is a better player if he is moved around the field, it is obviously less predictable where he is going to be coming from.

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    Free Agent DEs for a 3-4 team. 9 of them. Somehow, all but two specialize in stopping the run.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ramming-league

    1. Calais Campbell
    2. Chris Baker
    3. Karl Klug
    4. Frostee Rucker
    5. Leger Douzable
    6. Ricardo Mathews
    7. Kendall Reyes
    8. Antonio Smith
    9. Billy Winn

    Actually, they have FA rankings for most positions posted already, as part of their Bleacher Report NFL1000 scouting series.
    Last edited by pbmax; 02-21-2017 at 11:44 AM.
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