I'm with you on that joe, I've always sort of felt the Packers defense was close. I've never been so sure that they're not as I am now. ILBs should be better with a year experience. Clark and Lowry should be. Randall and Rollins a year experience and health......

It was a rough year and I'd expect them to be a little better next year than this year just because so many young guys should develop. But it's going to take at least one major upgrade to be top half and two to be top 10. And that's on top of the growth within. Either a really lucky draft or at least one UFA.