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    I agree with the idea that HS times are probably bogus, but some of their examples are probably explainable through other circumstances.

    You get a O lineman out of HS he might be 240-260. If he's at the combine, he is at least 280 if not more. I could see losing half a second.

    The skill position guys would still need to be adjusted for injuries.
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    When I got to college everyone I knew ran a 4.4 or a 4.3 in high school. I ran a 4.58 timed in madtown by Don Morton's staff. Of all the kids claiming a 4.4 or a 4.3 (and one 4.2) only one person ever beat me in paced off 40. He beat me by about 2 feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Holy Smokes. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
    You mean you, of all people actually buy into the crap put out by the damn "nutrition Nazis"? The closest thing I've had to vegetables in 30 or 40 years is French fries. I double down on greasy salty food and processed meat. I load up on ice cream, cookies, donuts, etc. and you won't find a healthier 70 year old (in 2 months) than I am.

    The shit about eating what "they" say is good for you is just designed to make life miserable for Good Normal people. Eat what makes you happy, and you'll be happier and healthier.

    And I call bullshit on your 40 time, Bobblehead. They didn't time to the hundredth of a second back when Morton was at U.W. - I'm not sure they even used 40 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    You mean you, of all people actually buy into the crap put out by the damn "nutrition Nazis"? The closest thing I've had to vegetables in 30 or 40 years is French fries. I double down on greasy salty food and processed meat. I load up on ice cream, cookies, donuts, etc. and you won't find a healthier 70 year old (in 2 months) than I am.

    The shit about eating what "they" say is good for you is just designed to make life miserable for Good Normal people. Eat what makes you happy, and you'll be happier and healthier.

    And I call bullshit on your 40 time, Bobblehead. They didn't time to the hundredth of a second back when Morton was at U.W. - I'm not sure they even used 40 times.
    You realize Morton was there in 1989 right? They absolutely timed to the 100th, but it was all handheld back then.

    And I realize your scientific study of what you, one man eats, trumps mountains of data put together regarding nutrition over the past 1000 years, but seriously?

    https://www.drlife.com/meet-dr-life/

    This guy is 77 and a nutrition and hormone fanatic and expert. Are you more healthy than him?
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    The argument about running in GB late in the season has to have been debunked by now. When we the last muddy game the Packers played? Monty got 180 in December in Chicago. The old adage of late season plodding RBs has been replaced by 300 yard passing days in January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    The argument about running in GB late in the season has to have been debunked by now. When we the last muddy game the Packers played? Monty got 180 in December in Chicago. The old adage of late season plodding RBs has been replaced by 300 yard passing days in January.
    But Saint Ron said this, so it must be true.

    Even if he never really adhered to it. Unless you want to count mudder Edgar Bennett.
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    hahahaha I did say "almost".
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    We can all agree that Tex is a psycho. So don't listen to any of his nonsense.

    Anyways, whatever the reason for Lacy being a fat ass the bottom line is he is a fat ass that struggles to maintain a healthy build for professional football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    We can all agree that Tex is a psycho. So don't listen to any of his nonsense.

    Anyways, whatever the reason for Lacy being a fat ass the bottom line is he is a fat ass that struggles to maintain a healthy build for professional football.
    True that. Lacy really isn't worth it as a #1 RB anymore, that much is obvious. Can he be an effective #2 with 8-10 carries/game? Not for more than 2-3 mil/yr, IMO, plus you'd have to absolutely carry a 3rd RB, which would likely be a rookie. He just seems to get hurt so damn much. I'm of the opinion to just cut bait with him though. I think he's eaten through his chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    True that. Lacy really isn't worth it as a #1 RB anymore, that much is obvious. Can he be an effective #2 with 8-10 carries/game? Not for more than 2-3 mil/yr, IMO, plus you'd have to absolutely carry a 3rd RB, which would likely be a rookie. He just seems to get hurt so damn much. I'm of the opinion to just cut bait with him though. I think he's eaten through his chances.
    Yeah, who in the hell needs a RB who averages 5.1 yards a pop like Eddie did last season before he reinjuried his ankle?

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    Pugger, I agree! The question is Lacy going to be in the same condition as he was at the beginning of 2016. After the ankle has been rehabilitated can he find the motivation to sculpt his body back into a professional football player?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Yeah, who in the hell needs a RB who averages 5.1 yards a pop like Eddie did last season before he reinjuried his ankle?
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Yeah, who in the hell needs a RB who averages 5.1 yards a pop like Eddie did last season before he reinjuried his ankle?
    Yeah, who needs a RB that can't stay healthy and has a chronic weight problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Yeah, who needs a RB that can't stay healthy and has a chronic weight problem?
    Whoever the back is he will have to be a self motivated gym rat to stay in shape. He certainly isn't going to get whipped into a physical beast by the amount of carries stubby doles out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    We can all agree that Tex is a psycho. So don't listen to any of his nonsense.

    Anyways, whatever the reason for Lacy being a fat ass the bottom line is he is a fat ass that struggles to maintain a healthy build for professional football.
    Nutz, you imbecile, your name describes you. Your kind is out of touch and out of tune with the huge majority in this country.

    Nevertheless, it's undoubtedly true that Lacy has a weight problem. There have been players like that before, and there will be plenty of others who have successful NFL careers. It seems like Gilbert Brown had something profound to say on that subject. I'll give you the idea that pro athletes need to be a little more careful about quantity and to a lesser extent, quality than regular people. In general, though, nutrition crap is just that: crap.

    And Craig, I pretty much agree with what you side too. We're better off without Lacy.
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    Gilbert Brown ate himself out of the league and as a nose tackle that is a hard thing to do. Lacy is a running back that extra weight does not have an added benefit, but you are right I am the imbecile. Find a better comparison.

    Also I am not arguing with you that the basis of our nutrition is given to us by the corn, wheat, and sugar industries along with GMO grown crops, but I will refuse to take your personal journey as truth for America.

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    Tex is hillbilly Partial. I wonder if he posts on any weightlifting forums?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Tex is hillbilly Partial. I wonder if he posts on any weightlifting forums?
    I think Tex is more of a health and nutrition forum kind of fella. Shredding fools with medical degrees with his experience and logic!

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    OK Bobblehead, I'll yield to your speed and athleticism hahahahaha. I know the NFL - and presumably colleges too - didn't go to lasers until after Morton was gone, but I Googled stop watches, and to my surprise, they do make them good to hundredths. I know I never saw one like that. I also tried to establish when 40 times even began to be a thing. I couldn't get any specific time, but there doesn't seem to be much mention of it before the late '90s. I sure don't recall it even being talked about back then, and if it was, it was in tenths, not hundredths of a second - but whatever.

    Your 77 year old man crush is a "hormone fanatic"? What does that even mean? It doesn't sound very healthy. Maybe Lacy should get on whatever he's on hahahaha. I will say, I'm pretty sure I'm about as healthy and a whole lot happier - eating whatever I damn well please, and THAT is the key to a long healthy life. If I suddenly stop posting before 30 years from now when I reach 100, I guess you guys can have the satisfaction of claiming I was wrong - assuming ya'all live that long hahahahaha.

    I almost forgot, it was a torn biceps muscle that ended Gilbert Brown's career, not gravy, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    OK Bobblehead, I'll yield to your speed and athleticism hahahahaha. I know the NFL - and presumably colleges too - didn't go to lasers until after Morton was gone, but I Googled stop watches, and to my surprise, they do make them good to hundredths. I know I never saw one like that. I also tried to establish when 40 times even began to be a thing. I couldn't get any specific time, but there doesn't seem to be much mention of it before the late '90s. I sure don't recall it even being talked about back then, and if it was, it was in tenths, not hundredths of a second - but whatever.

    Your 77 year old man crush is a "hormone fanatic"? What does that even mean? It doesn't sound very healthy. Maybe Lacy should get on whatever he's on hahahaha. I will say, I'm pretty sure I'm about as healthy and a whole lot happier - eating whatever I damn well please, and THAT is the key to a long healthy life. If I suddenly stop posting before 30 years from now when I reach 100, I guess you guys can have the satisfaction of claiming I was wrong - assuming ya'all live that long hahahahaha.

    I almost forgot, it was a torn biceps muscle that ended Gilbert Brown's career, not gravy, etc.
    40 times were a thing for sure in the very early 90's, at least

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