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    He isn't that great of a player even when he is healthy, is he a quality starter? I certainly didn't think so up until last year. The path is clear for him to play 50 to 60 plays a game and with what the Packers are paying hopefully the production is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    He isn't that great of a player even when he is healthy, is he a quality starter? I certainly didn't think so up until last year. The path is clear for him to play 50 to 60 plays a game and with what the Packers are paying hopefully the production is there.
    Not a game changer but healthy you are looking at 10 sacks/year and in the 20-30 range for pressure. He is also the best OLB run defender by far. He can play three downs effectively.

    The downside, beside injury, is that he is not constantly disruptive. His best pass rush move is a bull rush which will collapse a pocket and cause lesser QBs to pause, but won't affect the better ones unless he wins outright.

    He needs a partner to flush the QB. Datone Jones should pair well with him (as would Daniels if he wasn't double teamed) but Jones cannot finish a sack to save his life. Jones' best move is catching a fleeing QB.
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    again...had to be done. no one better out there or on this squad.

    looks like it's 5/60 w/18.5m bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    again...had to be done. no one better out there or on this squad.

    looks like it's 5/60 w/18.5m bonus.
    Yep.

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    Nick Perry's extension with #Packers is a huge one: 5 years, $60 million with an $18.5M signing bonus. He's due $20.8M in first year.

    @TomSilverstein 30s30 seconds ago
    Nick Perry deal is worth $59 million over five years and includes $1 million Pro Bowl bonuses each year, according to a source.

    @TomSilverstein 59s60 seconds ago
    At $11.8 million per year, Perry’s deal did not reach Clay Matthew’s average of $13.2 million. But pretty close.

    @JasonLaCanfora 1m1 minute ago
    Packers are paying Nick Perry big-time: $20.8M cash in 2017 ($18.5M to sign). Makes $39M over 1st 3 years. $60M/5yrs. Wow
    Last edited by pbmax; 03-09-2017 at 12:30 PM.
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    I almost always get this wrong on first go around, but $18.5 signing bonus pro-rates to $3.7 per year. Two years in and this deal could be voided and the signing bonus proration would wash out with cap savings.

    If there are other guarantees (actual ones, not Pro Bow ones), then that might extend to three years.

    So my guess is 2 years, 30 mil, if 3 years yields 39 Million. So he would make $15 mpy if it goes bad and the deal is terminated after Year 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I almost always get this wrong on first go around, but $18.5 signing bonus pro-rates to $3.7 per year. Two years in and this deal could be voided and the signing bonus proration would wash out with cap savings.

    If there are other guarantees (actual ones, not Pro Bow ones), then that might extend to three years.

    So my guess is 2 years, 30 mil, if 3 years yields 39 Million. So he would make $15 mpy if it goes bad and the deal is terminated after Year 2.
    I was close. Just under franchise value for 2 years.

    Jason La Canfora‏ @JasonLaCanfora 3m3 minutes ago
    From GB perspective, they'd look at Perry deal as $28M/2yrs; equivalent of franchising him at '17 total 2 yrs in a row, then pay as you go
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    Unreal to pay that guy 28 million over the first 2 years of the contract. thanks but no thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    Unreal to pay that guy 28 million over the first 2 years of the contract. thanks but no thanks
    No unreal is what they pay Clay. Perry is just getting market value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    Unreal to pay that guy 28 million over the first 2 years of the contract. thanks but no thanks
    I post on a handful of Packers message boards and you are the only one I have yet heard who is unhappy with this signing.

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    Good for Perry, that young guy is set for life.

    Cap hits will look something like:

    2017: 1.3M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 6M
    2018: 1.9M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 6.6M
    2019: 5.2M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 9.9M
    2020: 9.6M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 14.3M
    2021: 9.4M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 14.1M

    This is a reasonable contract for the foreseeable future and with only 18.5 guaranteed it never becomes a hostage situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    Good for Perry, that young guy is set for life.

    Cap hits will look something like:

    2017: 1.3M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 6M
    2018: 1.9M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 6.6M
    2019: 5.2M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 9.9M
    2020: 9.6M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 14.3M
    2021: 9.4M base + 1M roster bonus + 3.7M signing bonus = 14.1M

    This is a reasonable contract for the foreseeable future and with only 18.5 guaranteed it never becomes a hostage situation.
    I think the first year figure is close to right, but the 2nd and 3rd year should be higher if he gets 39 million over the first 3 years. We're missing 4 to 5 million dollars in those figures if my math is right. It's also missing 5 to 6 million in the last 2 years. Those totals are only around 50 million. Are they counting pro bowl bonuses to get them to 60 million. That would be 2 million per year for that bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beveaux1 View Post
    I think the first year figure is close to right, but the 2nd and 3rd year should be higher if he gets 39 million over the first 3 years. We're missing 4 to 5 million dollars in those figures if my math is right. It's also missing 5 to 6 million in the last 2 years. Those totals are only around 50 million. Are they counting pro bowl bonuses to get them to 60 million. That would be 2 million per year for that bonus.
    Demovsky has the whole thing line by line: http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-p...us-as-it-seems

    What someone reported to Silverstein as Pro Bowl bonuses for $1 million per year seem to actually be $600,000 roster bonuses (awarded weekly in season) and $400,000 workout bonuses each year of the deal.

    He does have Pro Bowl bonuses, but smaller:

    "Note: Perry also has a $250,000 Pro Bowl bonus each year from 2018-2021. There is no bonus for making the Pro Bowl in 2017."
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Demovsky has the whole thing line by line: http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-p...us-as-it-seems

    What someone reported to Silverstein as Pro Bowl bonuses for $1 million per year seem to actually be $600,000 roster bonuses (awarded weekly in season) and $400,000 workout bonuses each year of the deal.

    He does have Pro Bowl bonuses, but smaller:

    "Note: Perry also has a $250,000 Pro Bowl bonus each year from 2018-2021. There is no bonus for making the Pro Bowl in 2017."
    Those numbers are closer to what I had envisioned. Cap hits of 6, 11, and 15 for the first 3 years with the last 2 years at 14 each. Thanks PB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beveaux1 View Post
    I think the first year figure is close to right, but the 2nd and 3rd year should be higher if he gets 39 million over the first 3 years. We're missing 4 to 5 million dollars in those figures if my math is right. It's also missing 5 to 6 million in the last 2 years. Those totals are only around 50 million. Are they counting pro bowl bonuses to get them to 60 million. That would be 2 million per year for that bonus.
    What he gets and what he counts for are two different things. When they report he'll get 39M over the first three years they are counting the guaranteed money from years 4 and 5.
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    DT Calais Campbell is going to sign a 4-year, $60 million deal that includes $30M guaranteed with Jacksonville. (via @AdamSchefter)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    NFL on ESPN‏Verified account @ESPNNFL 43s44 seconds ago
    DT Calais Campbell is going to sign a 4-year, $60 million deal that includes $30M guaranteed with Jacksonville. (via @AdamSchefter)
    @RapSheet 26s27 seconds ago
    The #Saints contract with DT Nick Fairley is 4 years, worth almost $30M, source said.

    NO PASS RUSH COSTS $7.5 PER YEAR ON THE INTERIOR.
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    Never been a huge Perry guy but this was a very good signing. Kudos to TT or whoever structured the contract like this.

    Now TT should grow some balls and go get Connor Barwin and get him back excelling in the 3-4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Never been a huge Perry guy but this was a very good signing. Kudos to TT or whoever structured the contract like this.

    Now TT should grow some balls and go get Connor Barwin and get him back excelling in the 3-4.
    I think them signing Perry means no Barwin, not that TT would have signed Barwin anyway.

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    With the way the salary is structured its not that bad of a deal. The overall contract seems ridiculous for a guy that has a total of 23.5 career stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    With the way the salary is structured its not that bad of a deal. The overall contract seems ridiculous for a guy that has a total of 23.5 career stats
    Look at what some other guys got paid already around the league...many who have less talent than Perry.

    Perry is a very good OLB. Unlike Clay, he is stout against the run in addition to being a decent pass rusher. He's not an elite tier player...but when healthy he is certainly in that 2nd tier. Those guys will get paid over $10M per year going forward with the rise in the cap.
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