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    damn, lots of coin

    can't let guys you want to keep hit free agency

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    They guaranteed $20 mil. He's a good player, but I don't see him as a $9.5 mil/year guy. Still, another whole to fill. Likely a 3rd round comp pick, and at least a 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    They guaranteed $20 mil. He's a good player, but I don't see him as a $9.5 mil/year guy. Still, another whole to fill. Likely a 3rd round comp pick, and at least a 4th.
    that 20 million guaranteed could be mostly bull shit

    gotta see the numbers

    most teams will consider everything involved in the first 2 years to be guaranteed, because they just signed the guy, they plan on keeping him

    so a guy with a salary of 3 million his first year, with a 2 million dollar roster bonus in year one, plus a 3 million dollar salary in year 2 with a 3 million dollar roster bonus, plus just a 9 million dollar signing bonus, becomes 20 million "guaranteed

    smoke and mirrors, i bet when the end numbers come out, its not gonna be that much more then green bay offered him

    green bay could have played the same gme by saying bennetts deal was a 3 year 21 million dollar deal with 14.5 million "guaranteed"
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    that 20 million guaranteed could be mostly bull shit

    gotta see the numbers

    most teams will consider everything involved in the first 2 years to be guaranteed, because they just signed the guy, they plan on keeping him

    so a guy with a salary of 3 million his first year, with a 2 million dollar roster bonus in year one, plus a 3 million dollar salary in year 2 with a 3 million dollar roster bonus, plus just a 9 million dollar signing bonus, becomes 20 million "guaranteed

    smoke and mirrors, i bet when the end numbers come out, its not gonna be that much more then green bay offered him

    green bay could have played the same gme by saying bennetts deal was a 3 year 21 million dollar deal with 14.5 million "guaranteed"
    You might be right, and the 'real' money is closer to what the Packers offered. If the announced numbers are anywhere near accurate, it sounds like a market setting deal. Sitton got 3yrs/$21 million with a $2M bonus, long way from these numbers. These numbers could be inflated, but this contract could also be similar to Marco Riveria's final deal.
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    TT fucked up AGAIN, big shocker there. He lets Tretter and Lang go, Yet signs two TE's that they will never use to their potential.

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    TT fucked up AGAIN, big shocker there. He lets Tretter and Lang go, Yet signs two TE's that they will never use to their potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    TT fucked up AGAIN, big shocker there. He lets Tretter and Lang go, Yet signs two TE's that they will never use to their potential.
    Care to cite the number of spectacular 30 year old offensive guard free agency signings in recent years?

    $9M a year for a 30 year old guard is way too steep of a price. It was wise to not pay that kind of money for Lang, even if he was a good player. Overspending for anyone is what kills you with the salary cap.
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    We'll see how it goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Friday View Post
    Care to cite the number of spectacular 30 year old offensive guard free agency signings in recent years?

    $9M a year for a 30 year old guard is way too steep of a price. It was wise to not pay that kind of money for Lang, even if he was a good player. Overspending for anyone is what kills you with the salary cap.
    We will see if you feel that way when a patch work line gets Rodgers hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    We will see if you feel that way when a patch work line gets Rodgers hurt.
    This sounds just like what we heard when Sitton was released and Lane Taylor stepped in - Rodgers is going to get killed without our Pro-Bowl LG. I'll be surprised if Lang lasts as long as the contract he just signed.

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    Not going to lie, was firmly convinced Lane Taylor was the sky falling.
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    Lang's deal -- reportedly three years for $28.5 million with $19 million guaranteed -- is in line with the averages for players like Warford and Ronald Leary, but the Lions had to pay extra in terms of guarantees to win over Lang. He got more in guarantees than Warford ($17 million) and nearly as much as Leary ($20 million) despite the fact that they each picked up four-year deals. No other guard in football with a multiyear, non-rookie contract has more than 52 percent of their contact guaranteed. Lang is at 66.7 percent, making it likely he'll see all three years of this deal.

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    Lang was a good player. Borderline elite for a few seasons. Not quite. He was not a Hall of Fame must-keep. So, we don't keep for $10mil/year. Seems reasonable to me. Thanks for the comp pick, Leos!

    Forrest Lamp is a possibility in the 1st round. Played OT in college, projects as an OG in the NFL. We know how TT loves that shit. Also, he played very well at OG in the Senior Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    Lang was a good player. Borderline elite for a few seasons. Not quite. He was not a Hall of Fame must-keep. So, we don't keep for $10mil/year. Seems reasonable to me. Thanks for the comp pick, Leos!

    Forrest Lamp is a possibility in the 1st round. Played OT in college, projects as an OG in the NFL. We know how TT loves that shit. Also, he played very well at OG in the Senior Bowl.
    Lamp also had a nice showing at the Combine.

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    Great stuff from @TomSilverstein: #Packers opened at $7M APY, raised offer to keep TJ Lang. Didn't get close enough.

    Spoon says that significantly might be poor choice of word, subsequently says that Packers raised their offer but did not get to Lions offer level.
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    I love Lamp.
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    This is not enough to make me think he is the unquestioned starter, but its not exactly vet minimum either.

    @BobMcGinn 21m21 minutes ago
    C-G-T Don Barclay's one-year, $1.025m deal with #Packers contains $150,000 s-bonus, $100,000 workout bonus and $775,000 minimum base salary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    This is not enough to make me think he is the unquestioned starter, but its not exactly vet minimum either.

    @BobMcGinn 21m21 minutes ago
    C-G-T Don Barclay's one-year, $1.025m deal with #Packers contains $150,000 s-bonus, $100,000 workout bonus and $775,000 minimum base salary.
    Yuck. Normally guys round into form at Donnny's age, not drop off a cliff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Yuck. Normally guys round into form at Donnny's age, not drop off a cliff.
    M3 at one point last year thought injuries and the recovery cost Barclay on the field. I seem to recall him scoring better during his fill-in stints in 2016.

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