Official OTA's/Minicamp Thread

[texaspackerbacker]

Gunter with more speed is a 1st round pick. But he's not going to gain a step overnight. He's at his physical limits.

Gunter played better than any other Packer Corner last season. Unfortunately, he couldn't handle some of the top receivers of other teams. However, I think he'd be a damn fine second Corner if Kevin King or maybe House can take over as the top Corner. I'm glad they put Randall in the slot, as that means Gunter is more likely to get a crack at being a starting Corner. The key to it all is having that #1 emerge - hopefully King. Then we've got a ton of quality and depth. Otherwise, it's just like last year but with more choices.

[Joemailman]

Gunter played better than any other Packer Corner last season. Unfortunately, he couldn't handle some of the top receivers of other teams. However, I think he'd be a damn fine second Corner if Kevin King or maybe House can take over as the top Corner. I'm glad they put Randall in the slot, as that means Gunter is more likely to get a crack at being a starting Corner. The key to it all is having that #1 emerge - hopefully King. Then we've got a ton of quality and depth. Otherwise, it's just like last year but with more choices.

The problem is that unless things have changed, The Packers don't have a #1 corner who they put on the other teams #1 receiver. They play sides. So unless the Packers change things, opposing teams can put their #1 WR against Gunter, and force the Packers to decide if they want to give Gunter help.

[bobblehead]

Gunter played better than any other Packer Corner last season. Unfortunately, he couldn't handle some of the top receivers of other teams. However, I think he'd be a damn fine second Corner if Kevin King or maybe House can take over as the top Corner. I'm glad they put Randall in the slot, as that means Gunter is more likely to get a crack at being a starting Corner. The key to it all is having that #1 emerge - hopefully King. Then we've got a ton of quality and depth. Otherwise, it's just like last year but with more choices.

Hmmm....first time I've agreed with Tex in awhile. You nailed it.

[pbmax]

Hmmm....first time I've agreed with Tex in awhile. You nailed it.

Joe nailed the problem though. Neither King not House are gonna shadow the #1 receiver. At least, neither has done it professionally before (unsure if King played sides or matchup in college).

So if Gunter is the RCB, he's going to get the fastest #1 WRs and the defense is going to have to roll coverage. So your defense is already on the defensive.

[texaspackerbacker]

Joe nailed the problem though. Neither King not House are gonna shadow the #1 receiver. At least, neither has done it professionally before (unsure if King played sides or matchup in college).

So if Gunter is the RCB, he's going to get the fastest #1 WRs and the defense is going to have to roll coverage. So your defense is already on the defensive.

That may very well be the way things were done in the past, but I'll give Capers the benefit of the doubt in terms of adjusting things based on circumstance. Whether that means getting away from the "sides" thing or giving Safety help at times or whatever, I don't think he's just gonna sit back and let a Corner get beat by speed or whatever. Besides, a slower Corner like Gunter can do some adjusting himself using angles, etc. to deal with a speed guy. There were only a very few who beat him bad last year, so some of those he handled must have had pretty fair speed.

[bobblehead]

Joe nailed the problem though. Neither King not House are gonna shadow the #1 receiver. At least, neither has done it professionally before (unsure if King played sides or matchup in college).

So if Gunter is the RCB, he's going to get the fastest #1 WRs and the defense is going to have to roll coverage. So your defense is already on the defensive.

That may have been precisely because we didn't have a true #1. They might line up differently if King suddenly emerges as that guy.

[Bretsky]

I hope he does awesome, but I don't share the love fest for King. Still think Watt would have done great in GB

[MadScientist]

I hope he does awesome, but I don't share the love fest for King. Still think Watt would have done great in GB

I think Watt would have been terrible paired up against #1 receivers.

As for Gunter, I like him as a backup, as he is assignment-sure, but he is just limited physically. If House has lost a step, then Gunter may be the best option, but at the moment I'd rather House be the second outside CB. That is what he was brought in for.

[Fritz]

I just don't see any of the current bunch as an outside shut-down corner.

[bobblehead]

I just don't see any of the current bunch as an outside shut-down corner.

King has the physical attributes. Time will tell if he utilizes them.

[GBkrzygrl]

AS we all know Capers' defense is difficult to pick up. I'm curious about King's football smarts and his ability to learn the defense. I can see him playing some from the get-go but only in certain packages.

[smuggler]

CMIII and Woodson had Dez Bishop in 2010 and he was an above-average level player.