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    Quote Originally Posted by Radagast View Post
    GB should have the 1st pick in the 2nd of the 2017 NFL Draft , provided TT does not trade the Packers further down the river . The player that GB picks will know that he could have been due 1st round money , but TT traded down to save money. That player will most likely act pleased to be picked and honored to be a GB Packer, but he will always know that he got screwed by TT. He'll play out the minimum time required by his contract and then he'll leave GB faster than a cat with his ass on fire. A process that regularly repeats itself .
    Excellent point. TT did the same thing with Jordy Nelson and....oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radagast View Post
    GB should have the 1st pick in the 2nd of the 2017 NFL Draft , provided TT does not trade the Packers further down the river . The player that GB picks will know that he could have been due 1st round money , but TT traded down to save money. That player will most likely act pleased to be picked and honored to be a GB Packer, but he will always know that he got screwed by TT. He'll play out the minimum time required by his contract and then he'll leave GB faster than a cat with his ass on fire. A process that regularly repeats itself .

    GB signs a player for as little as it can get away with , expects efforts above and beyond the call of duty, then looses the fully trained player to free agency because they know they can screw another player cheaper than keeping the veteran. In the mean time the few high priced players keep the team in the playoff to satisfy the public. The failures are blamed upon injuries or the weather or bad luck or the coaches or the refugees or anything but TT.

    This process will continue until GB gets a GM that values quality over quantity. A GM that values people over money. A GM that cares about winning Championships over maintaining the Status Que .


    Perhaps this GM will go away some day and let us hope they get a winner and not another Bean Counter .
    Lol, what? The reality is somebody has to be the first pick of the second round. On top of that second rounders reach free agency a year earlier so this mythical player you're talking about has a chance to cash in earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Top rated OT, top rated OG, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Alvin Kamara and Tim Williams available, plus McDowell. TT might not get a lot of sleep tonight trying to engineer another pick or two in the second round.
    Maxie, you're on it right here.

    Funny to me how people panic and become so dismissive so quickly. The buzz on this draft was that it was deep, deep, deep, in corners and RB's, right up through the third or even fourth round. So it makes sense to move back and get another pick - and maybe move back again a few spots if you've still got four or five guys on the board you've got equally rated. But now everybody's puking that Ted didn't take Watt...or Foster. OR somebody, anybody!

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    I don't mind the trade back... it was only 4 spots, and the only guy to come off the board that I liked was Foster; and Foster of course cold be a knucklehead.

    Plus picking up the 1st pick of day 3 could prove valuable... teams will have the night to salivate over who dropped and Ted could get some pretty enticing offers for that pick.
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    I don't mind the move back either. Most of the time there isn't a big difference in talent between guys taken late in the 1st and early in the second. The only thing I didn't care for was waiting all night without us taking anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radagast View Post
    GB should have the 1st pick in the 2nd of the 2017 NFL Draft , provided TT does not trade the Packers further down the river . The player that GB picks will know that he could have been due 1st round money , but TT traded down to save money. That player will most likely act pleased to be picked and honored to be a GB Packer, but he will always know that he got screwed by TT. He'll play out the minimum time required by his contract and then he'll leave GB faster than a cat with his ass on fire. A process that regularly repeats itself .

    GB signs a player for as little as it can get away with , expects efforts above and beyond the call of duty, then looses the fully trained player to free agency because they know they can screw another player cheaper than keeping the veteran. In the mean time the few high priced players keep the team in the playoff to satisfy the public. The failures are blamed upon injuries or the weather or bad luck or the coaches or the refugees or anything but TT.

    This process will continue until GB gets a GM that values quality over quantity. A GM that values people over money. A GM that cares about winning Championships over maintaining the Status Que .


    Perhaps this GM will go away some day and let us hope they get a winner and not another Bean Counter .
    You project a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    Lol, what? The reality is somebody has to be the first pick of the second round. On top of that second rounders reach free agency a year earlier so this mythical player you're talking about has a chance to cash in earlier.
    Seriously, it's not like the Kevin Williams Viking situation where they purposefully didn't turn in their card. Some people will never be happy because they are smarter than everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Seriously, it's not like the Kevin Williams Viking situation where they purposefully didn't turn in their card. Some people will never be happy because they are smarter than everyone else.

    iamverysmart
    Is that what they figured out happened? That they were trying to avoid the monster bosses at the front end of the draft?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radagast View Post
    GB should have the 1st pick in the 2nd of the 2017 NFL Draft , provided TT does not trade the Packers further down the river . The player that GB picks will know that he could have been due 1st round money , but TT traded down to save money. That player will most likely act pleased to be picked and honored to be a GB Packer, but he will always know that he got screwed by TT. He'll play out the minimum time required by his contract and then he'll leave GB faster than a cat with his ass on fire. A process that regularly repeats itself .

    GB signs a player for as little as it can get away with , expects efforts above and beyond the call of duty, then looses the fully trained player to free agency because they know they can screw another player cheaper than keeping the veteran. In the mean time the few high priced players keep the team in the playoff to satisfy the public. The failures are blamed upon injuries or the weather or bad luck or the coaches or the refugees or anything but TT.

    This process will continue until GB gets a GM that values quality over quantity. A GM that values people over money. A GM that cares about winning Championships over maintaining the Status Que .


    Perhaps this GM will go away some day and let us hope they get a winner and not another Bean Counter .
    Lol, you mad bro?

    I liked the trade down. Heard there are potentially 80+ starters in this draft. Plenty of talent on the board. I would even trade down again like the rumors are saying. If its not too far. I am a lil worried we'll take Mixon at 33. Prefer him at 61.
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    In addition to Fournette and McCaffrey skipping bowl games, there was this:

    ProFootballTalk‏ @ProFootballTalk 19m19 minutes ago
    ProFootballTalk Retweeted Pete Prisco
    Also, McCaffrey said "no thanks" to private workouts requests.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    the guys with the big question marks will be the first guys to go tonight (syndey jones, mixon, cook, etc)

    so if tt doesn't want one of those guys, hell be trading back again

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    Jersey Al - GBP‏ @JerseyAlGBP 4m4 minutes ago
    Get out of here with your facts.

    RT @PTTF_Brian: .@TheSweep_PTTF went back to 2005. They found 2 impact players taken at 29 in 11 drafts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I need to read up more on Tim Williams
    I probably shouldn't have mentioned Tim Williams. The chances TT drafts him are slim to none.

    He's probably the best pass rusher/disruptive force in the draft according to a consensus of scouts. However, he's had a few failed drug tests in his past. Plus, "scouts say he has a difficult time adjusting to complicated defensive schemes." Definitely not a fit for Capers' defense IMO.
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    smh at the most popular picture from the first round of the draft...google shows 3 photos of Trubisky when you search for "2017 nfl draft"! I wonder how the guy that was actually drafted first feels about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    In addition to Fournette and McCaffrey skipping bowl games, there was this:

    ProFootballTalk‏ @ProFootballTalk 19m19 minutes ago
    ProFootballTalk Retweeted Pete Prisco
    Also, McCaffrey said "no thanks" to private workouts requests.
    Meh - Florio made some good points about this - there is plenty of film, pro day, combine. The private workouts have very little potential benefit to a player who's a lock to be first rounder.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...kout-requests/

    The fear of course is that he's skipping a lot of stuff, how much does he actually want to play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    Meh - Florio made some good points about this - there is plenty of film, pro day, combine. The private workouts have very little potential benefit to a player who's a lock to be first rounder.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...kout-requests/

    The fear of course is that he's skipping a lot of stuff, how much does he actually want to play?
    When you have that kind of college career and then destroy the combine, you don't need to do anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    1. Robbery at age 14
    2. Firing and possessing weapon on school property at 15
    3. At FSU, criminal mischief with BB gun shooting out windows
    4. Mistreatment of puppies same year as #4
    5. Named associate in assault case between two other men that occurred at his apartment (same summer as #4)
    6. Summer of sophomore year accused of punching a woman, charged and found not guilty

    MMQB has a good run down plus information that a "runner" for an agent that Cook did not choose was bad mouthing him and spreading rumors about him not showing up for NFL workouts on time.

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/25/n...te-miami-dade#
    Cook also has a fumble rate of 1 per 63.8 touches. That's really bad.

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    Kevin Seifert‏ @SeifertESPN 1h1 hour ago
    Wow. Per @mortreport, even @ChicagoBears coach John Fox didn’t know about plan to draft QB Mitchell Trubisky until a couple hours before.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Kevin Seifert‏ @SeifertESPN 1h1 hour ago
    Wow. Per @mortreport, even @ChicagoBears coach John Fox didn’t know about plan to draft QB Mitchell Trubisky until a couple hours before.
    Not only do the Bears still suck, it appears they will continue to suck into the future.
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    So TT turned the 29th pick into Kevin King and Vince Biegel. Just wondering if people would rather have T.J. Watt or King and Biegel. I don't see Badgers play that much, so I'm not familiar with Biegel.

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