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    The Auburn guy was there but he had injury concerns with knee and hip issues

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    Pass rush and coverage feel like a chicken and egg scenario to me. Watch the Redskins game from last year. Cousins was holding the ball 3 seconds max. Most of the time it was 5 steps and fire and he had guys open all the time. Not much a pass rush can do. Maybe an improved secondary helps the pass rush more than we know right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Pass rush and coverage feel like a chicken and egg scenario to me. Watch the Redskins game from last year. Cousins was holding the ball 3 seconds max. Most of the time it was 5 steps and fire and he had guys open all the time. Not much a pass rush can do. Maybe an improved secondary helps the pass rush more than we know right now.
    I wonder how many times during their struggles last season was the shitty play more about communications issues on defense vs. the physical limitations of the players on the field. If you don't know exactly where you are supposed to line up or where your responsibilities are supposed to take you as a young player, you can take false steps and get burned like a $2 steak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Pass rush and coverage feel like a chicken and egg scenario to me. Watch the Redskins game from last year. Cousins was holding the ball 3 seconds max. Most of the time it was 5 steps and fire and he had guys open all the time. Not much a pass rush can do. Maybe an improved secondary helps the pass rush more than we know right now.
    that's when you go into press coverage. we don't do that for some reason...except once in a while they let gunter do it. when i say press i mean actually jam at the line, not just attempt to stay close.

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    Packers had no consistent pass rush and no coverage ability so it is really hard to place the blame on one.

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    The Packers pressure numbers were far better than their coverage numbers. Someone with a PFF subscription could post the pressure numbers, but no freely available info I have contradicts that. So concerns about pass rush are understandable, but they were a magnitude less significant than coverage problems last year.

    Press man is not for every CB. Wth a weak an injured backfield, they played a lot of zone after Shields went down and others got injured.
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    Not's not pretend that Thompson won't cut a draft pick. I doubt they keep 4 RBs over 6 WRs with the depth at WR. The three RBs are all late round picks, so it's not like they have three sure things and took the fourth guy. I think it's more likely they drafted the three hoping that two show something.
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    Watch him prove to be mediocrity personified.
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    I don't understand the fascination of getting all hung up on certain players in the draft, especially one particular player. Perine was a decent prospect but so were 5 or 6 other running backs in his tier. I was surprised when Pittsburgh took James Connor in the third round but it was a good story and I think Connor has a high ceiling after coming back from Lymphoma, but who is to say that he is going to any better or worse than any other running back taken in this draft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    I don't understand the fascination of getting all hung up on certain players in the draft, especially one particular player. Perine was a decent prospect but so were 5 or 6 other running backs in his tier. I was surprised when Pittsburgh took James Connor in the third round but it was a good story and I think Connor has a high ceiling after coming back from Lymphoma, but who is to say that he is going to any better or worse than any other running back taken in this draft?
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