I went to DC Everest. Graduated in 1988. We played Rapids at home my senior year. Rocky was the biggest non-lineman we played against all year. Actually, he was bigger than most linemen. He was a damn impressive football player. His brother TD was pretty darn good too.Originally Posted by bobblehead
hmmmm all the way up in Eau Claire.....I don't even remember him being that big a deal at home. Probably because he was a pretty good guy and not an ass...
Watt is bigger than Biegel in every way (longer arms, bigger hands.) He has more potential to fill out and be defensive line stud. But he only really played 1 year of college football, which is a loss to all.
"NFL COMPARISON Frank Zombo"
That let the air right out of my sails on this guy.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
I liked Zombo, until he got hit by the injury bug. Biegel is probably better than Zombo, but don't be expecting another Clay Matthews with a 4th round pick.
Lance Zierlein is everyone on football blogs. I am not sure how good of a scout he is, but I do know this:
Zombo was a UDFA, At a minimum, Biegel makes a better prospect.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I think Vince is a better athlete than Frank.
I don't think he is comparing Biegel the prospect to Zombo the prospect, he is comparing Biegel the prospect to Zombo the 8th year veteran who started 11 games last year. I don't think it matters that Zombo was undrafted.
Then the comparison makes me even sadder.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
I didn't like the pick but I understand it, after losing Peppers we need depth at OLB because the chances of Clay and Peppers not missing a game are slim to none.
Pretty much saying he doesn't have much upside but he's assignment sure.
Perry, not Peppers
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Smh don't know why I keep doing that haha
I cant post the video of Beigel in the LSU game as I'm on my phone, but go on YouTube and watch the tape... he doesn't make a single play of his own inertia. The couple of plays he does make are b/c he's unblocked.
He gets handled easily by the TE, he can't get off blocks, he lacks chase speed, on and on... watch the tape.
wist
HOFer
You must be blind, wist. He blew up a critical 3rd and 1 play all by himself, and LSU had a blocker assigned to him. Biegel was fast enough to beat the blocker to the spot.
I don't think this kid in any way is our knight in shining armor at LB, but he's not a bad value in round 4. I do agree that Thompson needs to alter his approach to this position...it hasn't gotten him anywhere in 15 years.
It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
Which play are you talking about?? Where he dove in and got the guy by the ankle?? I remember that one; and, I remember he actually had a sack in that game when he came in unblocked, overran the QB, the QB stepped up in the pocket but didn't get rid of the ball and Beigel was able to get him from behind.
Where on tape are talking about??
Overall, that video is not a pretty sight for Beigel. He simply is not an explosive athlete, not 'sudden, quick twitch... there's nothing about him that says he has a ceiling above anything more than a decent backup and special teams player.
I would be looking to grab those types of guys out of the ranks of undrafted FA's, and focus my draft picks on trying to procure guys that can be starters or have upside to be starters.
wist
so, for posterity sake...who would you have taken with first pick in 4th.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
[QUOTE=wist43;927504]I cant post the video of Beigel in the LSU game as I'm on my phone, but go on YouTube and watch the tape... he doesn't make a single play of his own inertia. The couple of plays he does make are b/c he's unblocked.
He gets handled easily by the TE, he can't get off blocks, he lacks chase speed, on and on... watch the tape.[/QUOTE
He did about as much as Watt did in that game. They both played disciplined rushes and forced lsu to throw the ball. Biegel also had one of only two sacks.
I thought he played very well.
And if that is the tape to use to claim Biegel was over drafted, then in that same breath you can also say Watt was a major reach in rmd 1.
[QUOTE=Sparkey;927862]The Badgers won, and did so mainly with defense. Either Biegel and Watt - the two top Badger defenders - were doing something right or else they were so damn good that L.S.U. gameplanned so much against them that the rest of the D came through big.
All of that being said, though, Badger homer that I proudly am, I am just slightly worried that Biegel - being one cog in the machine of a great D - might just turn out to be kinda mediocre with the Packers. I hope I'm wrong, but I guess we'll see.
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