pbmax, you are an EXTREME NFL fan. All power and glory to you for it. I follow less closely. Maybe if I were deeper into it, I would know all the players around the league better, the turnover would not be so bothersome. For the more casual fan who just wants to primarily develop an attachment to a team, the turnovers sucks major ass. I can't make myself care about a new crop of offensive linemen every year - they're all just fat guys to me now. <sniff>