Ahman Ah-rested

[pbmax]

If you admit hitting the girl and injuring her eye with either the hit or the glasses, its time to go away for awhile.

[mraynrand]

If you admit hitting the girl and injuring her eye with either the hit or the glasses, its time to go away for awhile.

Well, the exact nature of it matters a lot. Maybe I'm becoming a dinosaur on this stuff, but if it's just a slap in response to a confrontational kid, then I think you let it go. If he punched or otherwise hit her with injuring force, then it should be treated as an assault. Ahman (and all men) have a special responsibility to control themselves and not hurt women. (And for Stan/Loretta, the rare strong women have the same responsibility towards their diminutive men).

[pbmax]

Well, the exact nature of it matters a lot. Maybe I'm becoming a dinosaur on this stuff, but if it's just a slap in response to a confrontational kid, then I think you let it go. If he punched or otherwise hit her with injuring force, then it should be treated as an assault. Ahman (and all men) have a special responsibility to control themselves and not hurt women. (And for Stan/Loretta, the rare strong women have the same responsibility towards their diminutive men).

A slap that is just a slap is one thing. A slap (and that is his description) that injures is a couple of steps beyond simply discipline. Given human nature, my guess is that slap is the kindest interpretation. He also has a history here.

[Rutnstrut]

If you admit hitting the girl and injuring her eye with either the hit or the glasses, its time to go away for awhile.

Yeah, god forbid anyone discipline their bratty, entitled, lazy children. If they did, there would be no future for the Democratic party.

[pbmax]

Yeah, god forbid anyone discipline their bratty, entitled, lazy children. If they did, there would be no future for the Democratic party.

So in black and white world its either injure or ignore for child discipline?

Doesn't sound like a lot of fun.

[Zool]

Yeah, god forbid anyone discipline their bratty, entitled, lazy children. If they did, there would be no future for the Democratic party.

If you teach a child to do what you say with the thread of violence, that child learns that the threat of violence gets you what you want. It's actually pretty simple and completely fucking stupid. If you hit your kid, you just lost.

[mraynrand]

If you teach a child to do what you say with the thread of violence, that child learns that the threat of violence gets you what you want. It's actually pretty simple and completely fucking stupid. If you hit your kid, you just lost.

good lord

[Joemailman]

If you teach a child to do what you say with the thread of violence, that child learns that the threat of violence gets you what you want. It's actually pretty simple and completely fucking stupid. If you hit your kid, you just lost.

Not all hitting is violence. My dad used to sometimes hit us for misbehaving. We never sensed danger though because we knew he wasn't doing it out of rage. He was in control. he was sending a message that we needed to straighten up. Ahman Green is a different story. He has, at least sporadically, problems controlling his anger.

[hoosier]

Not all hitting is violence. My dad used to sometimes hit us for misbehaving. We never sensed danger though because we knew he wasn't doing it out of rage. He was in control. he was sending a message that we needed to straighten up. Ahman Green is a different story. He has, at least sporadically, problems controlling his anger.

Sorry but it is still violence. Maybe of a different sort, but it is still violence. I don't doubt that there were and may still be family environments in which kids get spanked and grow up to be highly functional adults. But parenting culture is changing, and it's no longer generally accepted that hitting a child will produce desirable changes. Recent studies have shown a positive correlation between corporal punishment in the home and increased negative behavior as well as lowering of self-esteem. There are plenty of non-violent ways of teaching kids right from wrong and instilling responsibility.

[mraynrand]

Recent studies have shown a positive correlation between corporal punishment in the home and increased negative behavior as well as lowering of self-esteem.

50% of social science studies is shit. Not to mention that a lot of even the reasonably conducted stuff is politically outcome-driven (lysenkoism). And the last thing our society needs is more self esteem.

I would like to see which studies you think are worthy of consideration. I'd consider them.

[call_me_ishmael]

If you teach a child to do what you say with the thread of violence, that child learns that the threat of violence gets you what you want. It's actually pretty simple and completely fucking stupid. If you hit your kid, you just lost.

Yep, this. There are a million other ways to get your point across and assert authority rather than using size/strength/violence against a person.

[Rutnstrut]

Yep, this. There are a million other ways to get your point across and assert authority rather than using size/strength/violence against a person.

I suppose your approach would be give them a hug and tell them they can be any gender they want to be. Then help them find their safe place.

[Zool]

I suppose your approach would be give them a hug and tell them they can be any gender they want to be. Then help them find their safe place.

There couldn't possibly be a place in the middle of the two. Right?

[mraynrand]

Yep, this. There are a million other ways to get your point across and assert authority rather than using size/strength/violence against a person.

Your technique is to make a million flawed arguments.

[call_me_ishmael]

Your technique is to make a million flawed arguments.

How is saying "don't beat your kid, there are other ways" a flawed argument??

[mraynrand]

How is saying "don't beat your kid, there are other ways" a flawed argument??

That's not what you wrote, Hotspur. Read what you wrote again, and think about how you will keep your kid from running into traffic or taking things from other kids.

[MadtownPacker]

How is saying "don't beat your kid, there are other ways" a flawed argument??

Ultimate test, did you get beat as a child?